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Quake 3 Done! (01 Dec 2001 at 12:25)
Quake 3 Done!
Due to some combination of me fixing my mouse and my pent up frustration this weekend, I managed to beat all of the levels that I had never been able to beat before in Quake 3 Arena. (on Nightmare skill!) Actually, I had always thought that the last level was just impossible (this dude Xaero just basically kills you if there is ever line-of-sight between you and him), but it turned out to be "Q3DM18" that was the hardest for me to beat. Anyway... it took me only 3 years; I'm ready for Doom III!
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wackybrit.com (webcacheb02a.cache.pol.co.uk) – 02.28.02 18:39:50
Are you staying you beat EVERY level on Nightmare mode? I've done all on Hardcore, and am just starting to tackle each level at Nightmare.. but having no luck so far.
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Chameleon (12-248-156-101.client.attbi.com) – 03.31.02 23:10:16
I beat all the levels on nightmare mode in a total of 6 hours. The last level was extremelly easy. I beat him 10 to -16.
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Tom 7 (user-1121r6a.dsl.mindspring.com) – 05.02.02 00:58:29
Yes, Xaero is easy if you can trick him into killing himself a lot. But he is not so easy to take on in a straight firefight.

Anyway, I went and recorded demos of beating each level. I will post those some time once I verify them -- it was a lot easier with my new video card!
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HeartAttack (14.chicago-18-19rs.il.dial-acces) – 06.10.02 18:11:11
I have beat all the levels on hardcore but have only beat a few on Nightmare. they are pretty hard for me but i keep practicing!
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RadAcoustics (p19.nas5.akl.i4free.co.nz) – 08.29.02 02:04:22
Just finished all levels on Hardcore, it took me 2 days playing on and off.

I've had the game for 2yrs and previously only ever played it at LANs for fun ( mainly a UT player - www.yfclan.com ). Last week I watched a couple of 1v1 tourney demos of fatal1ty, Zero4 and Daler from QCon2002 and decided to give the game a proper try ( inspired by the skill/strategy levels of these guys ).

I must say I was plesantly suprised at how much fun I had, and will definitely have a crack at the levels on Nightmare mode.
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Jake (ny-norwich1a-263.aburny.adelphia.net) – 10.20.02 22:21:12
I just finished the last of the levels on Nightmare. I think hunter with the lighting was the toughest. The last level was hard though but I out foxed him.
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Sarge (65.121.125.172) – 04.23.03 13:00:17
nightmare is tough but i have been playing for 8 days off and on and now only have 7 left to go on nightmare. but the only one i cant beat on hardcore is zero. i really have trouble. i can kill him a lot like 9-3 until he got the rail gun thats when he knocked me off the platform
while i was tring to get health and then everything started to fll apart. every time i shot him he could shoot me twice and the battle ended 3-10 ouch!!!
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 04.23.03 15:28:22
Xaero is hard to take head-on in hardcore and nightmare. In hardcore, you have to be stealthy; just hide behind pillars and nail him with rockets when he comes to try to find you. In nightmare, you pretty much have to trick him into killing himself, which is what I did. Try Q3DM18... that one took me days and days to beat.
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M. (h-67-100-49-39.nycmny83.covad.net) – 07.15.03 05:40:47
The best way to beat Xaero on Nightmare mode if he's really getting under your skin is to go the the very back corner of the platform opposite the railgun spawn (all the way across and all the way back). There is a small ledge that juts out from the pillar that you can walk on -- it might take a couple of tries to get on there, but it can be done. Once there, align yourself with the middle of the platform, and look toward the railgun spawn so that it is barely visible. Keep as far back as you can, though, or you'll be toast. Make sure your music volume is all the way down, and listen to the sound from the jumppads. A loud jumppad sound means he's going for the BFG -- when this is the case, move over on the edge so that you can see the floating platform with the BFG and you will see him appear up there and you can get him. If you hear a softer jumppad sound, he is jumping up to the platform you're on and if you're in that spot where you can barely see the railgun spawn, he'll run to the rear of the platform, and then run right across your viewpoint where you'll have a clear shot (rail) and he'll never shoot at you. Good luck.
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Arena Master (webcacheb07a.cache.pol.co.uk) – 09.10.03 11:58:10
For me to believe anyone has beat Xaero on Nightmare on the final arena would require a demo. I don't care if its 400 meg long i'd download it too see it with my own eyes :O
The closest I have been was something like 16-20


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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 09.10.03 12:00:29
I have a demo of me beating every level on Nightmare, including Xaero. What's your e-mail address?
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 09.10.03 13:14:16
Wait, you play to 20??
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GreekJimbo (buchanan-b3.state.gov) – 09.10.03 23:10:56
Tom, I'd Love to see your Demos. E-mail me. GreekJimbo@hotmail.com
I just opened myself for massive amounts of spam didnt I? Oh well.
If there are any trick jumpers out there, I'd love to hear from you too. I need some help on Plasma Climbing . . .
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Mr.Happy (cpe-65-31-81-10.wi.rr.com) – 10.18.03 16:09:28
16-20??
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Anonymous (81-86-138-75.dsl.pipex.com) – 11.12.03 11:35:12
BUllshit
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ULTRA_KILL (208-59-157-46.s300.tnt1.frdb.va.dialup.rcn.com) – 11.15.03 16:43:02
I have been playing the game off and on since it first came out in 99 (or was it the end of 98?). I think it is a great game for improving your 1st person shooter skills! When I first started to play the game I could barely beat it on "Hurt me plenty". Now I can beat about 2/3 of the levels on Nightmare with ease. Thanks to that I have noticed a huge improvement in my playing skills of other 1st person shooters. The level I thought was the hardest to beat on nightmare in my opinion was Q3DM16 (DAMN DOOM!).
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DESTROYER (213.233.73.109.dial.xnet.ro) – 11.30.03 16:18:45
I have beaten all levels in 30 minutes with some triks!
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-250-12.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 11.30.03 21:50:35
What kind of tricks?
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Pain (111dial161.xnet.ro) – 12.06.03 22:06:43
hello eveyone,i know it`s late to start playing quake 3 but i`ve done all levela on hardcore (even xaero`s) and a few on nightmare , i can`t seem to be beating hunter.any tricks or poiters? mail me at painuletz@yahoo.co.uk :) yeah.. spam..
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Tom 7 (h-68-165-24-61.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 12.06.03 22:54:01
Yeah, camp the area with the lightning gun. There's a shotgun and armor right there, and you can pop through the teleporter for the rocket launcher. That, and hunter rocks with the lightning, so you don't want her to get it. ;)
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Crocket (ppp-67-64-145-43.dialup.rcsntx.swbell.net) – 12.23.03 00:44:04
I read your notes on beating Xaero, but alas, I was not able to make it work for me... That strategy had already worked for me on hardcore, but Xaero pegged me every time he came across the jump pad... but I had some insight... something I had read about 'tricking' Xaero into killing himself... about 40 times... So here's what I did... As soon as you spawn, run to the rocket launcher, crouch, wait, and watch. He can't hit you with the rail gun from the other platform, so he will do one of two things. He will come across and shoot at you while he is in the air (and miss) or he will try to get to the BFG, where you can fire a rocket and cause him to bounce off into oblivion... I just waited and if he came across to my platform, his having fired while he was in the air gives me time to take cover and move to a better position to take him on as he bounces up... I got pretty good at hitting him in mid air as he came up to my platform... at close range he isn't as deadly with the rail if you can keep pounding him with the rocket launcher... If he goes for the BFG, just keep triggering the ceiling to fall and cause him to bounce off.... don't wait for him to land and squish him... he will kill you as soon as he lands on the pad... It took about 35 minutes to beat it like this, but the final score was 10 to -4... I am disasppointed though, I had 'heard' there was a secret level that presented itself after you beat Xaero on nightmare (and all the other levels) and I'm sad to report that rumor is false... thanks for the help
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Tom 7 (pcp01253016pcs.hamden01.ct.comcast.net) – 12.23.03 10:04:41
That's essentially the same strategy that I use, except that I stand behind the piller next to the jump pad, and then when I hear the jump pad fire, I shoot a rocket into the ground and step behind the pillar. Then it's hop behind pillars as he rounds them, firing rockets around the corner, so that he basically never sees you. Also, if you're close enough it's not too hard to grab the bfg while he's respawning, which makes this strategy even more powerful.

There's definitely no secret level, though you can congratulate yourself with a secret level by downloading one of the zillions of maps and bots that are on the net. ;)
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Quake God (144.138.225.40) – 12.25.03 10:10:31
Hey all, I found it really easy beating Xaero on Nightmare, all I did was camp in the corner near the health and every so often he would come and get some health due to being hurt from jumping everywhere, you just get on the very edge of the pillar, at the back and he will come past and pick some up, make sure you get a railgun when spawned into the arena because this is what you shoot him with.

Im currently working on doing all the levels on nightmare, found some pretty easy so far, I have a shit mouse so I cant really beat the harder guys like Anarki and Phobos etc. Are they going to bring out Quake 4 or not?
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VOr_X (longchamp44-2-82-67-134-38.fbx.proxad.net) – 02.03.04 06:06:36
Hello everyone ! I have found a trick to finish q3a in nightmare mode very easily. Just start an arena in nightmare, kick the bot, and add another one in an easy skill. For example, if you want to beat Xaero in nightmare, start the game, and write in the console :

/kick xaero
/addbot xaero 1

I know it's not fair, but i only finish this game in hardcore mode, and a few levels in nightmare mode.
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VOr_X (longchamp44-2-82-67-134-38.fbx.proxad.net) – 02.03.04 06:14:44
Hello everyone ! I have found a trick to finish q3a in nightmare mode very easily. Just start an arena in nightmare, kick the bot, and add another one in an easy skill. For example, if you want to beat Xaero in nightmare, start the game, and write in the console :

/kick xaero
/addbot xaero 1

I know it's not fair, but i only finish this game in hardcore mode, and a few levels in nightmare mode.
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-47-187.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 02.03.04 10:02:04
Haha, well, then you're really just beating it on Easy mode, right?

You can also just edit your config file to make all the levels "completed..." but I recommend just taking up the challenge!
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VOr_X (longchamp44-2-82-67-134-38.fbx.proxad.net) – 02.05.04 12:37:44
I have finished it in hardcore mode. I am currently tryin' to have it done in nightmare, but it's pretty hard for me.
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RadAcoustics (cf1.compass.net.nz) – 03.21.04 08:30:49
Just came back to say Gidday Tom :). This has been a great little thread, can't belive my post was nearly 2ys ago and you are still getting comments.
Kudos bud, and hello from New Zealand.
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-9-177.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 03.21.04 11:31:49
Hi RadAcoustics. =) Somehow my radar page gets really high rankings in Google, so if you search for "quake 3 xaero" or "xaero nightmare" or "quake 3 nightmare", my page is close to the top. So this is one of those one-post-every-two-months kind of threads...
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sm0g (pd95382bf.dip.t-dialin.net) – 04.12.04 14:17:36
Hi, i've finished all levels on hardcore and nightmare before 2-3 years. But the last one, xearo, i never beat him!!! I'm playin Q3 on Internet and Lan, in the first case, for fun ( oh yeah this game is really funny! :) but i'm playin it too, to train my aim and reactions for cs, because thats the game which i play with my clan. i know you'll cry *buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh* but that doesnt matter for me. =D
I'll try to beat xearo, how u've say it.
bye and still fraggin

sm0g from ger
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WiKeDGoD (welax10-202.dialup.optusnet.com.au) – 04.13.04 01:24:39
I have beaten Xaero on Nightmare without camping. Anyone interested in my video?? Just post here saying that you would and I will have a link to it as soon as possible........
You just have to be a quick railer when he is on the other platform, and when he is on your own, get him with the rocket launcher........
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-161-247.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 04.13.04 09:15:24
Sure, I'll watch it.
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Comment-Man (pidgeotto-41.dynamic.rpi.edu) – 04.25.04 23:47:46
I'd really like to see some demos of Xaero getting his ass kicked in Hardcore and Nightmare. my email address is onkenj[at]comcast.net
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WiKeDGoD (welax6-236.dialup.optusnet.com.au) – 05.27.04 08:47:35
Heres the link to me beating Xaero on Nightmare mode in a straight out fight. It was really close as you can see 10 - 9 but I still beat him......!

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=318741#318741

and there is a link to download it.........
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WiKeDGoD (welax6-236.dialup.optusnet.com.au) – 05.27.04 08:48:57
Heres the link to me beating Xaero on Nightmare mode in a straight out fight. It was really close as you can see 10 - 9 but I still beat him......!

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=318741#318741

and there is a link to download it.........
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WiKeDGoD (welax6-236.dialup.optusnet.com.au) – 05.27.04 08:50:24
Oh and a follow up, that post that you are downloading the demo from is me who put it there I can confirm if you want
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-45-179.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 05.27.04 10:51:02
Unfortunately dm3 demos don't work in my version of Quake. Isn't that really old school?
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maverick (202.54.91.201) – 06.04.04 03:51:00
beating xaero in a closed arena in nightmare is impossible.the bot programming is such that the crosshairs are always trained on u.as soon as u r visible,youll be shot.u can try to beat him on railfest though.
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-45-179.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.04.04 08:39:07
I've never looked at the source code, but this can't be right because he sometimes misses. And, if he doesn't have the railgun, having perfect aim won't matter.
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Pho (alg221.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) – 07.24.04 13:55:16
can anybody tell me how to do a bounce without pads??? my mail is misiaczeq666@wp.pl
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Tom 7 (h-67-101-139-49.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 07.24.04 18:26:01
What kind of bounce?
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ramk13 (pcp04535616pcs.oakrdg01.tn.comcast.net) – 08.09.04 01:41:04
I have to say it's pretty cool that you have a post with comments going on this long. I just beat Xaero on hardcore after 10 tries by hiding behind the pillars and waiting to hear the pads (and then using the rocket launcher).

Gonna try to find a demo of someone playing him straight up.
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Tom 7 (h-67-100-132-169.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 08.09.04 10:35:47
I have beat him on Hardcore without hiding.. you just need to grab the BFG and then get pretty lucky. I would be floored to see someone beat him that way on nightmare, though. Let me know.
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Anonymous (210-5-203-80.reverse.newskies.net) – 09.13.04 12:20:03
hey all chickens i beat xearo 10-0 in straight fight.huh and also with ease.
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xtr. (210-5-203-80.reverse.newskies.net) – 09.13.04 12:21:24
that is the most false claim i have ever heard of.
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xtremist (210-5-203-80.reverse.newskies.net) – 09.13.04 12:25:14
hey all quake addicts my request to you that u all boys/girls should stop playing quake 3 and go outside play any sports and go outs with your friends and be social.do't waste your time for these idiot video games.do't take them too seriously.if my comments hurts anybody's feelings i apologises.
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 09.13.04 13:21:20
It's odd that you posted all three of those comments yourself, xtremist.
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RadAcoustics (ip203-97-107-12.compass.net.nz) – 11.02.04 08:00:40
Just back to say Gidday Tom,

It's hard to belive it was 08.29.02 since I posted my Q3 effort.
I still havn't beaten the bitch on nightmare... but you never know, one of these days...

Anyways... Kudos TOM 7, whom-ever u r.

[yf]RadAcoustics
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 11.02.04 11:22:37
Keep on trying! ;)
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X666 (i60-41-36-1.s05.a013.ap.plala.or.jp) – 11.09.04 14:28:29
Hoooooraaaay...I just completed all levels in nightmare mode....
Thank to my Radeon 98000 256 PRO...without which I could never complete this task :)

Happy :))))
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gnat (216.173.206.198) – 11.23.04 02:28:09
haha! I finally beat that xaero on nightmare! what a pain in the butt. I have to admit that I took the easy way out and hid behind the pillar next to the rail. ... still it's nice to have finally completed the game at nightmare level after all these years.

good luck fraggers!
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rush (d57-157-81.home.cgocable.net) – 12.15.04 07:32:25
Here is a good way to beat Xaero on Nightmare without tricking him into killing himself. This is basically how I finally beat him (not exactly obviously) but this is kind of the strategy I used. You have to remember that the spawn points alternate from side to side.

Step 1. Quickly grab railgun and rail Xaero before he grabs the railgun. Hide behind pillar on the left. He'll usually back up to get the health, then he'll shoot and miss. Then pop out and rail him again.

Step 2. Grab the railgun again so he can't get it when he spawns. Grab the rocket launcher. He'll spawn on the same side as you. Rox him to death (or rox with a finishing rail maybe) and grab the health if you've been hit (his machine gun is as wicked as his rail).

Now he'll spawn on the opposite side. Repeat step 1 and rail him to death. Try to do this over and over again.

Step 3. If you die while he's on the other side from you, you'll respawn on the same side. If you've railed him once, machine gun him to death (you can try rox if he's grabbed the health in the meantime), taking a hit if need be. If you haven't grab rox and try to take off some of his health. He'll usually go for the lower jumppads. Grab the rail and rail him as he crosses (you'll probably take a hit). Grab health and do it all over again from step 1.

Step 4. If you die while he's on the same side as you, you'll respawn on the opposite side. Hope that he doesn't have the railgun yet and try to repeat from step 1. If he does, try to get at least a rail on him and try from step 3.
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rush (d57-157-81.home.cgocable.net) – 12.15.04 07:40:16
and I beat him 10-5. He went for the BFG a couple times but even if you discount that I still would've won 10-8. :D

(and don't expect it to be much easier with the strategy I gave--it's still hard as hell)
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joao-p-azevedo@hotmail.com (adslsapo-b4-21-27.telepac.pt) – 12.18.04 20:08:32
You're right q3dm18 it's the hardest.

I've passed Q3A in Nightmare, 8 times now.. and when I mean 8 times it's like 8 times q3dm18, cause the other levels are easier..
xaero it's not very difficult, by the way, I always win to xaero making accuracy nowadays. Actually I've rapped him with -8 one time. :p
For who may read this, I've only played Q3A so much time in Nightmare, cause I didn't have internet at home.
Now that I have, I'm playin quake 1 again.. that's reviving itself
Go for a look at the new quake 1....
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Fragman (111.191-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) – 01.15.05 21:51:35
God, I'm just starting Q3 in Hardcore and some levels are so hard for me that I've the feeling the computer is cheating like crazy. Can't believe you guys can beat it in Nightmare.

So far I found "Arena of Death" quite difficult (especially Orb), and, above all "The Proving Ground" with that moth**f*ck b*tch Hunter! I just win it now, but it was close that I frag my computer screen with my keyboard so much she was cheating (I mean "shooting with an in-humane precision in all circumstances").

Actually, I found a very easy strategy as a result of my frustration: I simply camp around the LG, going from one side room to the other, and do whatever possible to keep Hunter from having the LG. At long distance, she makes a very easy target when she doesn't have the LG. I could do 10-1 with this strategy in only 2 attempts, when my best score in the previous 50 attempts was 4-10 (the previous strategy being to collect all armor as much as possible).
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Tom 7 (h-67-101-137-80.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 01.16.05 00:44:38
Yup, for most of these one-on-one matches, your opponent has a favorite weapon. The easiest strategy is usually to camp that. That's how I beat Hunter on nightmare.
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assassin (host81-154-38-101.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) – 02.09.05 15:08:19
I almost beat zero on nightmare..I mised the final shot with the rail gun and he wouldnt let me start from then on..It is possible to kill him but its fking hard as fk!
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Jez (stephensc.plus.com) – 05.03.05 14:30:12
This thread is invincible.

I'm playing through Quake 3 again at the moment, and it's still as fun as ever. I love it. Going to see how long it takes me to get it all done on nightmare.
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 05.03.05 15:13:10
Hah, yeah.


Quake 3 is one of those games I'll probably never delete, because it's so much fun to fire it up and take out those bots. They really achieved a great feel in that game.
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Muzkat (acc1-ppp50.mel.dialup.connect.net.au) – 05.08.05 08:50:15
Hi...nice eternal thread

Quake 3 Arena is my favourite MP game. I love the graphics, which still look pretty today. I like the sounds, because they are full of oomph, and the eerie music. I love how it is fast and frantic, and you have to really work to earn each frag - no cheesey headshots. I love the gothic feel. And the game is so fun, really putting pure gameplay to the fore. It just has got "IT", something I feel other games don't.

I have completed it on Hardcore a few times, and now I'm slowly attempting Nightmare - but it is damn hard.

And does anyone play Team Arena? It's the coolest add on! The only thing I don't like about it is the generic models
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sp1r1t (dsl-084-058-129-229.arcor-ip.net) – 05.08.05 17:46:33
cool, i just beat him 10:4 at hardcore with the first try since months.

it's very easy if you stay behind the pillar next to the point where he will land after using the jumppad to reach the platform you're on. when you hear the sound of the pad, hit him with the rail, hide behind the pillar to reload, hit him again. you can also kill him with the rail gun before he picks it up.

i'll try to beat him on nightmare now, wish me luck :-)
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sp1r1t (dsl-084-058-128-167.arcor-ip.net) – 05.09.05 10:58:46
hey, xaero's a whimp - if you're a camper :-x

10:5 at nightmare, third try. used the same (lame) tactic as explained in the previous post.

btw : it's a pity the demo of WiKeDGoD isn't there anymore - i'd really love to see somebody beating that monster in a straight fight. people come up.
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Pianist-Turret (67.68.222.157) – 06.02.05 00:24:57
Hi there , i loved reading this thread, it is really invincible when u see all the fucking dates hahaha anyway, im still playing quake 3, 1 year now, i did all levels to nightmare BUT --> BUT Q3DM18 = omg, major is skilled much better then the other bitch comps. Anyway ill got it someday. Hmmm what i have to see about xaero...
1st-> I hate him
2nd-> I really hate him
Cause he made me frustated so much ahahhaha
Anyway i beat him in straight fight, without trix or stupid falls hiding behind pillar etc. Finish with 10-8 i was so -> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I KILL U BITCH ! MWHAHAHAHAHAH SO HAPPY lol. Tell me if u people are still alive and well, and wanna me to make a demo of any arenas ur desire. Cya fragmasters, if u see turret , or pianist on multiplayer (XGA Server) =it's me and good luck cause i wish to kick your ass !
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Tom 7 (72.244.68.84) – 06.02.05 09:31:40
I believe there's an outstanding request for demos of anybody killing xaero on nightmare without cheap tactics.
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Pianist-Turret (67.68.222.157) – 06.02.05 09:57:27
Hoy tom, do u still play quake 3 ? I saw video of quake 4 and unreal tournament 2007, it'll kick our ass ! (good morning :-P)
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Ep1tome (147.72.96.3) – 06.02.05 12:01:24
SUP SUP damn this ting is STILL going?!!?!?!

i have beat every level (even nightmare) without doing dirty little tricks or using cheats.. its not that hard when you have been playing Threewave CTFS (multiplayer mod i suggest everyone gets) and hitting 40-60rail with a 30% lighting to boot. Once you learn to use all the weapons it is ez to beat him w/o even dieing. Just learn to stay around health/armor so when he rails u, you have time to get the health/armor b4 the next rail. Meanwhile you can get the rail shot u have been waiting for.. or hope he missed and ur full everything, just go in with a rail shot... miss or not then rox at his feet to pop him up... get a quick rail in and hes dead, that simple.

if you want to talk about anything msg me on AIM: OWEp1tome or mIRC: ETG #Vindication

damn Tom 7... uv been keeping track of this lol
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Tom 7 (128.2.203.136) – 06.02.05 12:35:39
Well, I get notified when there's a comment here, so it's easy for me to follow. ;)

Yeah, I still play Quake 3 from time to time. It really just has such a great feel. I really liked Q3F, but it seems nobody plays that any more...
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Ep1tome (147.72.96.3) – 06.02.05 12:42:30
i used to and my buddy... Sni*P*eR and Rapisst

but now its all 3wave. i try to play ra3 but its really really hard b/c the guys r invisable to me.. something happened with the models that i cannot fix and now all i see are gun flying around. its fun but really really hard lol... just some glitch i cant seem to fix
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Pianist-Turret (67.68.222.157) – 06.02.05 22:19:14
LOL nice tom. me 2. more im doing xaero , more its easy, really, i can win all the times without fucking trix or hiding behind pillar... nvm now i want to play quake 4 ARGH !!!!!!!!!!!
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Tom 7 (72.244.68.84) – 06.03.05 00:21:20
If it's easy, please make us a demo... I'd love to see.
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Ep1tome (147.72.96.3) – 06.03.05 10:32:23
im waiting for q4 to come out... our whole threewave team is switching over.

one thing i hope they put in is a storyline like doom3, but where it is also a multiplayer storyline. That it takes a team of 5 (maximum) to go though to beat it working together. Only at certain checkpoints can u get the dead guys back so it makes it much harder. U can't forget about the team vs team battles though. maybe something like Halo2 on xbox implementations where one team can be the bag guys and one can be the good guys. or just the normal all vs all q3 style shoot em up bang bang.

CENCERY DRONES!!!.. anyone staying within a certain area space should b shot repedidly untill they leave... damn campers I HATE EM.

i hope people respond to this on what they would like to see in q4, maybe they will view it and add some upgrades for online DLs. DONT FORGET TO KEEP THE 3Wave mod in q4 :)

Here is a cover page i have made:
http://public.fotki.com/Ep1tome/extras/problems/quake4.html
http://public.fotki.com/Ep1tome/extras/problems/quake4blue.html
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Pianist-Turret (toronto-hse-ppp3780402.sympatico.ca) – 06.08.05 23:45:41
Hi there people, hi tom, i just finish my record of quake 3 arena killing Xaero. Final Score - > 10(Pianist) -1(Xaero)
Ya this bitch fall 2 times i think, and he kill me once, something like that. Anyway, check this out people and tell me what you think
:-)
File to download -> http://www.angelfire.com/psy/mp3-3/
Go there and save the file .dm3 to your baseq3 folder of quake. Open quake, go to demos options then watch me kick his ass to nightmare lol ! If link is broken, tell me ! -> jo_le_druid@hotmail.com
See you later tom and fraggers.
If you don't have quake 3 arena but want to watch it anyway, send me a mail -> there's a way to do it ! Bye , Pianist.
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-68-84.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.09.05 00:20:38
man, can the newest point release still play .dm3 files? Those are pretty old, right?
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Pianist-Turret (toronto-hse-ppp3780402.sympatico.ca) – 06.09.05 10:38:00
Ho shit, i forgot to tell you i was with the first version, 1.16 i think. Anyway i think you can try the video games player from id software (i think) ...if you don't want to change your version lol
I'll search for the right site or something with this free tool and come back to tell you.
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Pianist-Turret (toronto-hse-ppp3780402.sympatico.ca) – 06.09.05 10:39:49
Alright , its called the seismovision, try it and see if u can watch my demo > http://www.planetquake3.net/seismovision/
:-) cya
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-68-84.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.09.05 19:09:56
Yeah, that works. Nice job! I'd say that qualifies as beating him in a straight firefight, albeit with a bit of camping the railguns. ;)
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Pianist-Turret (toronto-hse-ppp3780402.sympatico.ca) – 06.09.05 21:34:47
lolll thanks buddy
yeah if u let him take the fucking rail = ur death so normally i try to kill him before he takes that god weapon :-)
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Anonymous (129.94.198.73) – 06.24.05 03:42:55
Phew just finished q3a on nitemare thanks to some tips here!
It is oh so satisfying to beat Xaero 10-0, even if the tactics were a bit questionable :)
I agree q3dm18 was also a pain in the azz heh heh
All in all a very entertaining way to spend ~5hrs
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Nitin Jadhav (203.197.93.88.ill-pune.static.vsnl.net.in) – 07.05.05 06:28:11
Hey guys,
Tyr to use zoom key to beat xaero.
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Anonymous (203.197.93.88.ill-pune.static.vsnl.net.in) – 07.05.05 06:30:24
Hey Guys,
Here r some suggesions for beating Q3A on nightmare1 level:
1. get a good optical mouse & nice hard mouse pad.
2. Make a good keyboard configuration, guidance will be found on net, such as zoom key.
3. use good graphics card, for speed.
4. practice railgun, rocket etc.
5. see various videos & demos on net.
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Nitin Jadhav (203.197.93.88.ill-pune.static.vsnl.net.in) – 07.05.05 06:42:55
Using Wheel

If xaero jumps to get BFG, just fire machinegun(or rail) towards the green wheel in the sky of "the very end of you" arena & the BFG chember will be closed, killing xaero.
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RadAcoustics (p230.fastip190.adsl.iconz.net.nz) – 07.18.05 05:01:00
Heya Tom,

Just thought I'd give another wave hello to the keeper of the eternal thread.

Every so often in my random 'Googles' this thread pops up, and it always brings a smile to see it still trucking on.

Bring on the 5yr anniversary I say. I'll certainly be here to post comment on 12.01.06
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-70-115.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 07.18.05 09:29:27
Okay, there will be a party to commemorate the 5 year anniversary when it rolls around. ;)
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Anonymous (69.251.236.177) – 07.23.05 14:30:01
Thanks to all of your guys help, I have finally beaten Xaero on nightmare. Just 6 stages left on nightmare and I will have done them all. Exquisite!
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Anonymous (69.251.236.177) – 07.26.05 22:07:20
YES!!! I have finally beaten all the levels on nightmare. It is amazing that after 6 years, this game can still bring such joy.
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dave (dsl-084-057-212-069.arcor-ip.net) – 09.01.05 03:23:07
hey guys, nice thread. i read all of it :D xaero IS a b!tch, hardcore i can beat him in straight firefight, but only if i ain't tired ^^

now, for nightmare: seems impossible to me :( i wont try with camping, q3 ain't counterstrike :D
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 09.01.05 16:15:13
Against near perfect-accuracy cheating bots, sometimes camping is one's only hope...
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Pianist (206.162.143.251) – 09.02.05 10:06:39
As tom7 says, sometimes, you have to camp with your tent and wait the b|tch, if you got a good accuracy with railgun, you can try to move while killing him, now that is what i do ! Even if he falls down, i can kill him before he suicide lol Every games i make against him, i win. I can do a even better "demo" record or make an "avi"(but file is more bigger, something like 70MB after compressing!) that the one i did last 3 months :-) Lets Rock !
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caulodren (cmbg-cache-2.server.ntli.net) – 09.21.05 20:09:39
Funny enough i put xearo hardcore against xearo nightmare and actually hardcore beat nightmare 20-8. Hardcore xearo is alot more accurate with the laser and is really good at dogging the lasers that xearo nightmare throws at him, try it for yourselves and you just sit as a spectator
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Curious. (213.237.20.24.adsl.by.tiscali.dk) – 10.24.05 17:03:03
In no0bish question.
Does anyone know the diffrence between hardcore and nightmare bots?
Are they "just" more accurate or do they cheat.. (dirty bastards)
If so in what ways? more dmg, more health..
Have not been able to dig out this info anywhere would be nice to know.
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 10.24.05 19:04:47
You could figure this out by looking at the Quake III (game) source code, which is available. If I recall correctly they do not cheat (this might be impossible, anyway, since I think that bots connect to the server just like regular players). On the other hand, it was definitely the case in Quake I that the enemies took and dealt more damage on the harder skill levels, so it wouldn't be that surprising if true.
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Gerry (l3-202-89-190-8.arach.net.au) – 11.20.05 14:19:04
Yeah tom they do cheat. You can play against a bot of the same class as yourself and they will be able to get off three railgun shots FASTER than you can fire two. That is you come up against them, you both fire the first at the same time (and both miss) and even though your holding down the fire button they will still sometimes fire two more shots before your able to get off the second one. I didn't notice this on any other difficulty other than Nightmare, though. They also do a lot more damage than you, but that's harder to prove.

PS. q3dm18 on Nightmare wasn't all that hard, the more bots the easier I find it. Playing on q3dm18 with a 2 mates on a LAN and the rest of the spots all filled with nightmare bots is so much fun. It's all about killing fast... very fast.

I got up to 9 - 7 against Xaero on NM last night, but then the bitch came back.

WOW almost five years and this is my first time finding this site. :-) Only got a copy of Q3 (and a computer that could run it [or any 3D game for that matter]) in the last couple of months.
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RadAcoustics (nc1.akl.callplus.net.nz) – 02.17.06 05:57:51
Ah well, I missed the anniversary... I swear it was marked on my calendar... (LOL) :D.

Anyways gidday Tom and I hope all is well.
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-69-85.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 02.17.06 10:19:26
Ahah, welcome back. ;) But the 5 year anniversary isn't until december..
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Pianist (modemcable016.114-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 03.21.06 21:10:14
Hello people, here it's Pianist again !! Nice to see that more people have posted here. Guess what, i just finish a record of me beating Xaero nightmare ! Final Score : 10 - 0, and i die one time so u can see it's really nightmare, and Xaero felt at start like an ass hole :P I made a .avi so you can see it to : www.video.google.com !!! Just type Xaero as ur search ~
Now , please know that the quality is not the best we can see around, but it's fine. Okay, if you want the real avi that is better to watch in a player, it's like 25-30 meg so tell me : systemabuse@hotmail.com (comments may be interesting too) :-) Cya later , now im really off with quake 3, was a really nice game, i have a life etc, so please let me uninstall quake lol :P See you !
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Anonymous (219.80-203-125.nextgentel.com) – 04.03.06 17:58:28
hi Tom 7
do u know where i can find a aimot or a wallhack for q3ra ?
i have a friend thats WAY better than me and i REALY need to teatch him a lesson :P



-UNIX-
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Tom 7 (h-68-166-177-146.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 04.03.06 19:52:49
No, I don't know anything about cheats.. I find they tend to make the game unfun. Do you really think it'll teach him a lesson? ;)
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Pianist (modemcable016.114-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 04.03.06 23:15:43
Hey tom, so, have you seen my video on google :-P Heee haw !
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Anonymous (69.41.113.241) – 05.13.06 06:41:51
Hey everyone, i am just keeping this thread alive, its 6 am, may of 2006, and the array of poorly made FPS games has left me playing my all time favorite classic once more. Xearo is simpy kicking my ass on nightmare, i was impressed by the one person who beat him 8 times.

i've read two strategies so far camp by the rail gun and hide behind the pillar next to the health. and then when he spawns on the other side use the rail. to prevent him from getting it. I am going to try until i beat it cause this has been my favorite game for years, other shooters have come and gone but Quake 3 is still timeless, i will beat it before i move on.

are people playing quake 1 still on the net?
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Kalypso (69.41.113.241) – 05.14.06 07:47:12
I was also the previous psot anonymous, i did it everyone! quake 3 on nightmare difficulty competely beat. years after the games release.

it isnt as bad as i thought, basically i took the rocket launcher and camped out, behind the railgun where he lands after he jumps from the launch pad (this works from either side) and i shot him when ever i could. if he spawned on the other side, i would quickly try to gun him down using the rail but usually i avoided him. its the only point in the game i feel where you have to be cheap to get passed it, apart from that i love quake 3.

honestly i wasnt impressed with quake 4 at all, and i think quake 3 really had it down nicely. thats a shame, because they made an amazing game with a small development team and the modern iteration doesnt seem to be that good to me.

if you all know of any good mods or quake 3 servers, taht a fast paced and fun to play... (like OSP) please let me know. and best wishes to you al.

in down with this game.
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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 05.22.06 02:56:32
Wow... This thread is like 6 years old!

When I started in 2000 I had 12 years old and easily done all levels on Hurt Me Plenty and then hardcore but I never really been able to do it on nightmare until recently with my good computer. It's been easier than I though. The only thing that I can't do at all is Xaero on Nightamre :S It's like fuck off, he got a perfect aimbot. When he gets a railgun, your dead for sure since he miss once on 10. I'm just gonna use the trick by kicking him out of the server so I can finaly have all map done :D

Sad to see that Quake 4 is a total failure. It's pretty amazing too that we are still on Quake 3 because there is no other good game "of this kind" at the moment. Time to wait until Unreal Tournament 2007 is out.
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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 05.22.06 03:12:58
Again me, I was just wondering if someone could let me borrow his CD-Key. It's the first game that I've played and it's also the only one that I lost the key :S and I since a while I used to play a few 1vs1 with a friend at home in Lan but now that he have a new computer for gaming, I'd like to play on internet vs him so it get more fair because here he had to play on my sister's crap pc so I would own him 1000x easier with my gaming rig. I've done some test and you don't need a cd-key to create a server so I would only need 1 for him.

Thanks in advance if you can. My email is KriegerDerHolle@Gmail.com
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Light (p508876ec.dip.t-dialin.net) – 06.02.06 10:47:57
completing the game on nightmare takes less than 2 hours for an average skilled q3 league player ;)
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 06.02.06 11:08:01
Maybe I'll take that challenge! Most of the levels I can beat in two or three tries, so most of that 2 hours would be spent retrying the problem levels like q3dm18. ;)
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.10.06 16:03:57
PanzerIV check your email,

yeah quake 3 was fun, but i have a strange suspicion that quake 4 will improve. Id really dropped the ball by letting raven take over, it was a bad idea. They make good games but the change was too drastic.

and the Unreal styled games, though i play them often, are simply too hectic for me, quake 3 is more elegant and streamlined. and also the arena's are smaller making for more intimate combat and close quarter action. Oh well... we'll see, games in general simply arent hitting my spot like they used and it always seems that the newer titles progressively lack something that the previous ones had...

but amazingly this thread continues on a little longer.

to beat xaero you should camp behind the pillar next to jump pad where he lands to pick up the rocket launcher, and shoot him the moment his feet touch the ground, you simply have to wait for him back there and get ammo the moment he dies, then go back and hide. its cheap but its the only way to beat him on nightmare, his aim is inhuman.
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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 06.10.06 16:42:57
Hmm why the hell are 90% of servers, all running ExcessivePlus?! I tryed it and it's really horrible and 1000x worse than stock Q3. It's sad that all servers sucks but at least I'll be able to play from time to time in my own server in 1vs1 with my friend. Thanks again for the cd-key Kalypso.

I love Unreal Tournament but since a while I've got sick of UT2004. It used to have a lot of servers with cool and good regular players and lot of activity with clans on ladders, specialy in Onslaught but now it feel very empty and the game is dying. 3/4 of servers that still exist and which have a good ping are demo! So playing the same map over and over make it even worse. Also I don't know whats up with this game's netcode but it's one of the worse that I've ever seen and the bug in the UE2 engine which can't be fixed is really annoying "rocket and flak shell not registering". Also like you said, there is not enough close-quarters fights and everyone play medium to far range, like chicken cowards and they only use hitscan...

Me too I find it amazing that this thread is still active even after 5 years lol.

You can be sure at 100% that I will have Quake 3 unninstalled forever within 6 months. I only reinstalled it to kill time since there's just boring games at the moment, like Counter-Strike, Battlefield 2... I'm waiting for Enemy Territory:Quake Wars and more especialy, UT2007 :D
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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 06.10.06 16:54:34
As for Quake 4. I wouldn't hope too much about it. The game is born-dead and you can look by yourself on this stats tracker by selectioning Q3 and Q4 with a date, on the link below.
www.nofrag.com/gstats2/avance/?GameList=1

The most popular Forum Community from Quake 4 is there "link below". I participated in it for a while, after getting tired by seeing that even if we were A LOT of people complaining about the game, that it changed nothing at all.
ht tp://esreality.hexus.net/?a=post&forum=22

I've looked at every single pictures from your website "portefolio" and I gotta admit that you really have a lot of skill in drawing! :O
www.atelierfrancois.com

Just wondering, do you speak french???
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.11.06 17:38:25
yes I do speak french, my family is from the carribean, Haiti

thank you for the compliments, on the portfolio, i appreciate it,
in the mean time enjoy Quake 3, i love that game.
i have to start practicing more, developing drawing skills and playing less games, but it was fun as hell while it lasted.
play to your hearts content, i may never play again.

the comparison chart is embarassing, i hope ID and Raven are watching because that is the destruction of a perfectly lucrative franchise, a great way too loose millions of dollars and fans. are the values on the chart the number of players that are still playing?

Yeah people on the forum sound very dissappointed, i feel the same way, but thats the way it goes, enemy territory might be a lot of fun. i am going to check out more reviews and see what its about, anyone with and Xbox 360 should enjoy "gears of war".

I have a feeling that someone is developing a miracle patch, or miracle mod to make quake 4, the quake game that it was meant to be, because the community isnt going to sit back and watch the franchise slip into oblivion, simply because raven fucked up.

I am wondering what specifically anyone has noticed that made quake 4 so inferior to previous quake games... it felt like a noticeable let down to me but i still cant put my finger specifically on what made the game so uninspiring...

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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.11.06 17:38:38
This thread never dies.
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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 06.12.06 19:27:30
For the chart "stat-tracker", it show how much people were playing the game at X houre and X month so yes you can see how much people are still playing by watching how low the bar is on the graph at the current day.

OMFG, I've just done a "01/01/2006 to today" with Q3, Q4 and UT99 and the numbers at the moment are Q3 with 3100 players "4100 last month", UT99 with 2700 "3100 last month". Those two game folow very closely with a small advance for Q3 all the time. And to finish, Q4 with 400 "biggest since 2006 was 1000 players and lowest was 0 for a while lol". Well, nothing is more clear than a picture so look on your own at: ht tp://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled0185770dd.jpg

Yeah ET:QW is the next big game. id is also suppose to have a new title "new franchise" in developpement but which it's name is unknow at the moment but it's been confirmed that they are doing a Return To Castle Wolfenstein 2 which I await a lot too.

I really hate consoles but Gears of Wars is the only thing that I wish PC will have. It's been rumored that someone "Epic or Microsoft" will port it onto PC somewhere later after it's release on Xbox360.

There is a 1.3 patch being tested as you must have saw in the esreality forums. Still I'm pretty sure that it will come out too late to save Q4. This game is already dead to me and I won't be playing it once the new batch of good games will be out, this autumn. What's sad with mods is that even if they really rock, not enough people play them so if the game doesn't have a default/stock gameplay that kickass, the game won't be able to create a wide community around it, so mods will get no chance to get popular. It's like Quake 3 Fortress 2.0 which came out a year too late. 1.0 was being very played but when 2.0 was out, even if it was very good, it had 0 players and never worked. That's not cool for devs which "wasted" time to build it.

I'll tell you the main reasons why Q4 was a total failure:
- Quake 3 was very good so the whole community was expecting at least something equad or even better, for the multiplayer but those idiot prefered to put all their effort on the singleplayer and let the multiplayer's job to raven. Kinda like Doom 3 which had a cool singleplayer but a really poor multiplayer, programmed in a few houres.
- They added a few very good features in Quake 4 but they modified too much the "core gameplay" which made it stand appart from Quake 3. Especialy by doing smaller maps with slower movements "people didn't take it" but still I could have got used to it as it wasn't that bad though I prefered the fast way of Q3.
- Now the main problem... BUGS! Even now with patch 1.02, the game still have a lot of sound issue which everyone is having. Not just 5-10% of players. It could be understandable if you were using an onboard soundcard but I do own the best one "Soundblaster X-Fi" and I do have problems...
- The netcode is horrible. A player with a ping of 20 will own someone with a ping of 80+. Every servers lag like hell. When I refresh the browser, there is only 5-10% servers with a ping under 100! Mostly for a fast paced game like Quake, it is unplayable with a high ping. I heard on the forum that many people, if not half the players of Q4's community, where playing the game only on Lan.
- The game took forever to support "Auto-Download" and still it's not even working good in 1.02 so every goddamn time that you try to connect to a server, you either miss a file or can't download it connect so you can play on almost no server at all.
- 3/4 of servers are passworded so there is even less choice to play online. And for Tourney/Duel servers, which I like a lot, it's 90-95% that are passworded... so fuck off.

Those were the main problem from Quake 4. If you add all the other small issue, there is even less reason why someone would play Q4. They should have done a "Quake 4 Arena". By this I mean, no singleplayer and all the thousand of houres they wasted on singleplayer should had been used to make a perfect multiplayer. Also "personal opinion", I prefered much more "as my friend" the dark/hell/gothic theme from Quake 3, than the futurist one of Q4.
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Tom 7 (h-67-100-132-235.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.12.06 20:18:09
Man, I loved Quake 3 Fortress.
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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 06.13.06 11:25:59
Yeah, that was the best mod ever. I miss that good old time. Today games with a big modding community are getting very rare "if there is not none" so we're stuck on playing some boring retail games.

Now I'm in summer vacation for 2 months since I've finished school on June 12th and I'll be stuck with nothing good to play on, since everything is dated for Autumn -_-
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.14.06 03:42:56
Wow, that all makes sense Panzer. those are some major issues that would turn away any gamer. and the chart is a pitiful reflection of quake 4's popularity. we'll see happens.

hm, my favorite quake 3 mod was weapons factory arena, i was in love with it. Beautiful maps, great game balancing and all that, but those days are finished.

i am anxious to play is Huxley, that game looks so sick. i hope it delivers.

well i enjoyed my forum discussion but i gotta go to sleep.
where are you guys from? i live in New York city, im 22 years old, a 6'2" caramel colored haitian america, who loves quake.

later

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PanzerIV (modemcable142.209-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 06.14.06 23:48:06
Hehe, talking about Quake 3 mods, you made me remember of a few good memories :)

Urban Terror, Rocket Arena and Q3Fortress that I've said above. I think I didn't get to play Factory Arena or that I just forgot.

Yeah Huxley looks awesome. It will be the first MassiveMultiplayerOnline (MMOFPS) games that won't have horrible graphics. Many games coming in 2007 seem to be using the Unreal 3 Engine and that's just good news. But about Huxley, I've read all news about it on Nofrag.com and it seem to be getting less exiting everytime. I mean, first they were talking "productor of the game" of a massive online game, then they reduced their number to ~100 players per area... I just hope it will end up in a good product. Thus said, I'm still really looking foward that game.

I'm from Quebec, a little above you :) "that's why I'm french", I'm 17 years old and soon 18 "6th August" and white 6'0" who loves FirstPersonShooters.

Cya dude. Ah while I though about it. Here's a text file that I uploaded for you. It contains all upcoming good games with their release date. I've made it myself and it's all in alphabetic/chronologic order so it will be easy to understand for you.
www.megaupload.com/?d=WWOYON8K
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.18.06 02:45:44
thanks a lot, best wishes to you, enjoy quake3, and im out!
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.19.06 09:56:32
Don't be angry, because I'm from Poland and I'm beginner in english.
If you can, please tell me how is the easiest way to destroy that guy ( Xaero ). I dunno how I can do it, because I tried to hide off pillar, but he came to me and fragged me with railgun or Rocket Launcher.
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Tom 7 (lolo.wv.cc.cmu.edu) – 06.19.06 10:44:00
The most popular strategy that I know if is to hide behind the pillars surrounding the jump pad (so he can't rail you from the other side) and then when you hear him bounce up to your platform, send a rockets to where he will land (and then hit him a few more times before he rails you to death!). When he doesn't have the railgun, you can snipe him with yours.
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.20.06 03:55:41
This is the same explanation as above, Tom 7 pretty much nailed it, but I already wrote this before realizing that.

you have to frag him the moment he touches the ground after he lands from the jump pad. listen to the sound of the jump pad launching and shoot only when his feet are just about to touch the next platform. right from your hiding spot, and then if hes alive shoot again at the same spot Immediately,

when he is jumping up from the lower platform, unto the main one with all the pillars is when you shoot. he is most vulnerable the moment he lands, cause his feet always touch the same spot and he cant kill you effectivelty if you shoot your rocket and hide before even seeing if it hits him.

its easy if you focus on not being visible and concentrating on shooting where he lands, the moment he gets there.
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.20.06 09:00:02
Thank you... I tried also to hide off pillar ( it seems wide black stripe on this pillar ) and rail or dodge him with R.Launcher. Is it good idea?
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Tom 7 (h-68-166-177-57.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.20.06 10:43:18
I agree with Kalypso... the #1 priority is to stay hidden when he has the railgun. There's no point in dodging because it won't confuse his aim and the railgun is a hitscan (instant) weapon. The only exception I'd say is that if you hear him bouncing up for the BFG, which he'll do if he can't find you, you can hit the sky target with the machinegun and he'll almost always die with a -1. He might rail you in the air, but it's worth it.
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.20.06 17:10:41
My friend told me so I have to "camp" and wait, so he can "do" few falls. If he has something like -10 I should get the railgun and begin The Duel. He doesn't say anything 'bout hiding off the pillars etc. He only was saying about the real battle. He must be a master.
Thanks a lot...
One more guy, who is very difficult is Anarki. Are you have any ideas to defeat him. I don't seem so this is easy..
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.20.06 17:28:18
uhm... beating anarki is all about great aim, you have to pelt him with the rail gun and kill him with that when he is using other weapons. be aggressive and kill Anarki with the rail from long range, and use the rocket launcher up close, stay very mobile and always prey on him, never run. if you have a bad start at the beginning of the match start over, gain the lead and keep killing him before he gets good weapons, the rail is his best gun i believe so dont let him get that and use it on him.

Xaero is all about hiding behind the pillar and shooting the platform when he lands with rockets, you wont believe how easy it is until you do it. I did it in the second try after someone told me and I think he only killed me once, hide behind the second pillar from the front of the platform, all the way to the left side, you should be aiming at the spot where he lands from the small jump pad. and when you hear that sound you know hes going to land soon, shoot and get away. and everytime it should say that you killed him, it might take 2 rockets but always shoot at that spot. and listen carefully turn the sound up.

TOM7 is right, about the BFG, but when i played him he didnt get the BFG he doesnt use it too often. you might get lucky but even if he gets it and kills you a few times with it, you can still win using the same strategy,

i keep finding myself here, at this same thread... wow.
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.20.06 17:46:45
It seems so Xaero is easier than Hunter and Anarki...
Anarki has very good accuracy in rocket launcher and railgun also shotgun and uhhh Plasma GUN! I can't see the way to "smash" him, so If you can tell me ( like stories about defeating Xaero [Thanks A Lot] ) the easiest way to defeat him without using the railgun a lot. Maybe somewhere on this arena exists any places where I can "camp" ?
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Tom 7 (h-68-166-177-57.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.20.06 19:17:28
Here's a demo of me beating Anarki 10:1. He is much easier than Xaero (for my style) because there are so many goodies on the level (red armor, megahealth) and he doesn't seem very interested in them. Do keep him away from the rail, but if you have red armor or megahealth, then you'll take at least a few rail hits to die... enough time to kill him with rockets even if he keeps hitting you. Please do lol at how I choke in a near-perfect match though; it's pathetic:

spacebar.org/stuff/q3tourney4.dm_67
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zientman (dzk250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) – 06.21.06 07:21:08
Red Armor and Megahelath.... He allways beat me, but I already know, so keep him away from railgun...
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.21.06 15:56:14
Oh yeah!! I've already passed Xaero on nightmare skill, on computer of my friend Denis Kepa - i can't play on my, because it's old ( a.s.a.p. I'll buy new ), I also passed Uriel on nightmare, but he is so easy...
My next destination will be Klesk :)
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slaarf (d192-24-204-106.nap.wideopenwest.com) – 06.21.06 21:37:40
i havent beaten xaero on nightmare just yet, but i did get to 4 to 10 on first try... this sounds rediculous, but i bought all 3 quakes just last week, having played 1 and 2 back in '98 and occasionally playing q3 at friends lans. this would be my third day playing q3 consecutively.

basically it seems like you have to go for an all out rail-fest to get him. going for the bfg on hardcore can be done, but its not always smart, and its impossible on nightmare. i was big into 1v1 for UT2k3 and 2k4 and was ranked 20 on PG laddar, which isnt great, but with that, your shock rifle and lightning gun, equivalent of the rail gun, aim becomes fairly good. in my best time i had 78% accuracy with lightning gun.
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Tom 7 (h-67-100-132-237.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.21.06 23:52:16
Actually, right after you kill xaero in nightmare you can usually succeed in a run for the bfg. He tries to close the platform on you (rather than shoot it early so you don't land on it), but you can bunny-hop through. The BFG is okay against him, but it runs out of shots too quickly. I think the rocket is safer and easier.
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.22.06 14:59:25
Really good aim is the key on Nightmare, and also being ruthlessly agressive, until you get to Xaero, then you have to camp because his iam is invincible,

a good way to improve aim is to practice bunny hopping side to side while shooting at the same spot on a wall. and keeping your arm steady and relaxed. or standing still and shooting at moving opponents, you can set yourself on god mode, and shoot at bots on a level with a lot of jump oads while standing still thats good practice also, but i havent tried it myself.

also a good mouse is just as important as a nice video card, if your FPS remains consistent without any lag, and your mouse is very responsive then you should be strait,

the bots on nightmare tend to have inferior aim after they have been hit or while they are being shot, if you shoot them with accuracy they are less effective at killing you, so shoot them fearlessly and when you land hits their aim is less effective.

i use a razer diamond back, a good investment, a generic mouse isnt as responsive, but if you use a generic mouse well it wont be an obstacle.

I tend to use a low sensitivity I see that Fatal1ty
uses a low sensitivity also and he simply lifts the mouse and moves it when it gets near the edge of the mouse pad, i think thats a good strategy because it keeps the muscles in the wrist at ease. the diamondback is adjustable so i change it on the fly usually, but i still think lower is better, when it gets too high the muscles in your arm get to tense and it becomes hard to make minor adjustments.

yeah beating the game on nightmare really isnt the product of any magic hardware, it just takes a ruthless player with good aim, also the bots have a tendency to be somewhat predictable so go after them, and concentrate on killing as many as possible even when your health is at 1

Xaero we've discussed at length in previous posts, so reading those made by TOM 7 and I, and also keeping in mind general q3 pimpage strategies and you should be ready,

I didnt beat the game in one sitting i had to come back every few years, and play it again and each time i got better, i played it alot when it came out, and then i stopped, a year later i would play for a few weeks and then leave it alone for 9 months initially i thought that hardcore was nearly impossible and after a lot of playing nightmare became a breeze, but i never played continously for a long time I would always take long breaks, but a great video card did help alot, asus agp x800 pro vivo, it keeps the game running smooth.

good luck fellow quakers I can understand why we are all here because quake 3 really is a spectacular game, and after many fps games i am realizing that it still holds up as an all time great, and we are the few who recognize its brilliance, its a pleasure to share your company.

be well.
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.22.06 14:59:35
quake 3 forever.
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 06.22.06 14:59:52
and capcom vs snk 2, :)
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Tom 7 (h-67-100-132-237.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.22.06 18:36:18
and Super Metroid.
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.23.06 16:30:25
And ID Software!
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.24.06 14:04:08
Have you ever beaten Hunter on Nightmare? I have it!
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Tom 7 (h-67-100-132-237.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.24.06 22:12:21
Yes, I've beaten all the levels on nightmare. Hunter is pretty hard.
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Zientman (80.51.226.138) – 06.26.06 05:02:13
But anarki is harder to beat...
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Soar (203-59-210-85.dyn.iinet.net.au) – 07.30.06 06:51:46
I personally found hunter harder to beat than anarki. It was difficult to deny her the lightning gun :O!

I got lucky and beat Anarki 10-2 on my first go on nightmare with 53% accuracy :D. But for the life of me I can't beat q3dm18 :(. All the other levels are completed. Anyone have any tips to stop major doing crazy stuff like winning 20 to a-second-placed 6? Cheers.

Hey Pianist/Turret I saw your Xaero video on youtube, nw.

Awesome longevity on this thread :D!
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Tom 7 (c-71-235-60-138.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) – 07.30.06 09:52:41
Q3DM18 is really hard.. All I can suggest is to make sure you always get the quad, and hang out in that jump corridor place and cherry pick (since they like to hang out there). In that level it's not so much about killing the bots and not dying, but about killing the bots faster than they kill each other (which is really fast!)
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Kalypso (cpe-68-173-146-35.nyc.res.rr.com) – 07.31.06 04:39:05
for q3dm18, I agree. hang out in the area with the jump pad, and show up with a shotgun, or a rocket launcher and get at leat 3 kills before dying if you can, That stage is all about fragging ruthlessly so get into a groove where you can be in that part of the stage and do that consistently. I find that the rest of the stage has areas where its easier to fall off and there are less bots to fight. but the area with the Quad always has someone there waiting to get blasted. the shotgun is great here because the area is rather right.
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Soar (203-59-210-85.dyn.iinet.net.au) – 08.05.06 10:09:47
Hey guys, thanks for the tips. I had been trying the mentioned strategy for a while. I tried it some more after you guys suggested, and it did help to some degree .Its strange though, because today I was trying that strategy and they were never there (would only spawn and run past to elsewhere). With this observation I decided to change tact, and thankfully it paid off.

I got my break fighting them all in the center on the ground (below the rail gun spawn). When i beat it, Major was down the order (of course)....bout 10 kills (second was Sorlag on 18). I probably spent 8-10 hours on this level (=P) and had numerous scores of 15-18 (and plenty of 5-7 when Major went nuts :p). For me, Q3DM18 was without a doubt the hardest level in Q3 to pass.

It's a satisfying feeling to get this wretched monkey off my back and now move on to more productive endevours. Once again, thanks, and good luck to all attempting Q3 on NM.
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Pianist (206.162.143.251) – 08.08.06 10:34:21
Hey Soar, I didnt put any videos of me on YouTube ;-)
It's on video.google.com
Video of me beating xaero nightmare difficulty
Final score : 10 -0 i died one time , so you can see it's really on Nightmare difficulty. And he felt , thats why the 10-0, i think its my best one; 2 minutes is pretty fast. Just aim and shoot !

Nice one again Tom 7 for this Blog !!!!
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FireSign (213-78-199-202.ppp.onetel.net.uk) – 08.10.06 02:08:18
:)

i own Xaero in nightmare!! honestly ive got like 7 demos (anytihng i tinhk is cool i turn it inot a demo and carry on recording till i close my quake lol) but anyway i can honestly say and prove i can go 1vs 1 with Xaero (like firefight) and win, and if you make me a plain map with nothing but flat floor for miles, it'll just suit my taste better!!

i train my dodging on him!! and its dead good, just start moving dead fast and make him miis, if he misses first shot ive got him! cause i stay in his clear FOV so he'll shoot again straight away and dodge (all you gotta do is know timing) but thats just me, you CAN rail jump the pad on the platform under the one with pillars (in DM18) , just railjump on the pad that goes up and onto the rail spawn, and aim to land on the square block tinhg OR take the pad ON the platform with pillars the one that shoots you acroos to the other side of map then rail jump the second pad u hit and land on the square block tihng, from there you can easily take a shot and move back without getting hit, reload, take a shot and move back (how i practice aiming XD) trust me beat him like 10 times that use the box and improve!!
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Hernan (customer-hmo-212-15.megared.net.mx) – 09.02.06 03:18:50
For me, the real challenge is to beat Major in q3dm17 1 on 1. Create a new multiplayer server with the Major bot with Nightmare! skill level and start the server.

to beat the single player levels in nightmare were all easy except q3dm18. Xaero can lick my b@lls everyday. Major I tell you... that little biatch.

I still can't beat her. I can win... barely... sometimes... but I need to ravage her!!! For my pride as a Q3 Addict :) And for the generations that have been playing with this game since past millenium.
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TarGet (at05-m187.net.t-com.hr) – 09.10.06 13:17:40
xearo on nightmare???? that is for kids its too easy?? I dont know why but i cant beat deva station!! but i found secret there haha (shit). I wana try play q3 without HUD is this possible?

In q3 nobody can beat me when is LAN party but on net Im suck!!
bye bye
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TarGet (at05-m187.net.t-com.hr) – 09.10.06 13:24:47
if somebody do not know how to beat some arena just write g_speed 500000 i think that gona be enough for win??? haha
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TarGet (ad13-m184.net.t-com.hr) – 09.10.06 13:35:42
i can't believe before 5min i won on dm11 ha. without cheat!! again I have on nightmare all stages... thanks all for help!!?? if you understand me :)
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Sunspear (85-210-146-62.dsl.pipex.com) – 09.19.06 21:10:59
Firesign show me a demo of that please .. i only have a screenshot of nm mode. and thats on osp 30 frags to 8. thanks .. sun
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Sunspear (85-210-146-62.dsl.pipex.com) – 09.19.06 21:14:29
technically it was 37-12 but i had 7 suicides lol from jumping over and missing pads ... and he lost 4 frags with me railing him off the pads ..and q3dm18 is easy get the quad .. run around see 2 bots .. rox the floor and shotgun in the air 100% to kill both bots and then just sg and mg them .. allot more fun that trying to rox them as splash damage can be a little tight when there's like 4 bots by quad and you happen to shoot one in the face =}
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Sunspear (85-210-146-62.dsl.pipex.com) – 09.19.06 21:15:55
soz not osp ... cpma ... i just played osp so i got both mods mixd up .. but surley you quakers know osp is the best mod there is .. pure skill and nutta-ness =}
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Kalypso (c-71-229-49-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) – 09.28.06 03:41:10
After beating quake 3 on nightmare I felt strangely compete, i could turn my back to PC games and whole heartedly pursue women like a new born man.

but im still here at this undying string.

OSP is so dope, i wish it could be played with bots - bots just never quite grasp the rocket jumping goodness. and its hard to find good servers with real fanatics left.

I love quake 3 but its descendant quake 4 killed my devotion to the franchise.

this blog never dies,

is anyone looking forward to Unreal Tournament 2007?

its the type of game that makes you save up and buy a new computer, but dual core rigs with SLI are getting cheaper and more affordable to the average citizen.
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kalypso (c-71-229-49-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) – 09.28.06 03:41:44
this forum will last well into 2010
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Kalypso (c-71-229-49-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) – 09.28.06 03:43:37
Hello From New York City - Haitians play Quake 3. at least this one does. and I love AZ and Nas. but more quake 3 and less about me
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-250-10.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 09.28.06 09:04:51
The new UT engine looks amazing. I never really got into the single player ones, but we still play the original UT (with ridiculously overpowered graphics cards) occasionally in the computer cluster at school, and there is definitely something to be said for multiplayer games where every weapon is way too powerful. It is a strange kind of balance. And even if the UT itself isn't that good, it looks like the engine may be a new favorite for other developers.

(Also I am cheering for Tim Sweeny's enterprise because he has a strong interest in functional programming, which is my research area..)
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bennie (ip565c7d61.direct-adsl.nl) – 10.20.06 15:18:50
quake 3 is cool you must play it to your own to know much fun it is
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Warhead (cpe8892516e8f7a-cm024340003626.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) – 11.13.06 19:28:34
I've been playing Quake 3 ever since it was released.

However, I am still not able to finsih Nightmare mode.

The question I have is...what kind of mouse sensitivity level are you guys using?....I use a low sensitivity....Even though I think that has a balance of both moving fast and aiming, I am wondering if using Higher sensitivity practice is better?

Let me know

Its amazing Quake 3 is still so popular...

Enjoy!
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-70-9.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 11.13.06 20:14:41
Yeah, I think turning up the sensitivity helps (you can do it in small increments as you adjust to it). Getting a good sensitive mouse will help even more.
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Bloody (cdma-53-59.msk.skylink.ru) – 11.17.06 16:37:56
Coolest place with videos from Quake was found here www.mczone.ru/videos/Quake
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TarGet (ad9-m140.net.t-com.hr) – 11.23.06 05:31:54
//s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=19753

in front of that page enter http: and you will see the site of coolest q3 movie
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[sOLID_sNAKE] (202.138.13.38) – 12.19.06 20:10:30
eyyy tom, i would love to see ur demos in nitemare man. ma email iz greek_god14@hotmail.com. i jst started playin quake again afta havin a go at cs... quake iz alot easyer to play man. thanx
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D1me (ppp71-80.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) – 12.23.06 00:53:21
Hey all,
As it's close to Christmas, I thought I would install quake and kill some bots!!! Just finishing Hardcore, and got a little stuck with Xaero. Lots of tips here so I should be able to finish Hardcore and start on Nightmare.
Thanks guys.
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Anonymous (d220-238-61-92.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) – 12.27.06 06:47:46
Hi Q3 freaks.
I started playing quake 3 about 5 months ago. I've been reading all the posts and feel like a complete novice. I can't get past Anarky Q3DM17 (Hardcore) Its like the bots got cheats enabled, I hit him 3 times with a rocket (i get the ping noise) he only has to touch me with one rocket or a quick burst from the pulse gun and I"m a gonner. I can't believe a bloody game gets me so riled. A lot of fun though.
Awesome game!
any advice welcome: galacticblaxal@hotmail.com yeah spam my ass...
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Anonymous (c-71-195-161-156.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) – 01.04.07 20:47:31
Right now im about half way through Hardcore. Does beating hardcore help you get prepared for Nightmare? Or is it like Halo where the difference between Heroic and Legendary is huge?
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-70-236.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 01.04.07 21:59:42
I think Nightmare was a lot harder than Hardcore, but certainly practicing in Hardcore will help!
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Toro (at02-m183.net.t-com.hr) – 01.07.07 19:13:59
q3 is too havy for me. i cant win on bring it on and i dont know how to get hook mod, can someone help me...?
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RadAcoustics (203-160-119-109.callplus.net.nz) – 01.12.07 04:06:11
This thread has been weighed, measured, and found eternal...

Heya Tom, howz tricks.

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Pianist (modemcable142.143-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 01.15.07 00:18:58
Hahaha I still have so much fun to read all the posts, this is amazing how long it stay. I can see Tom in 2065, old grand pa still laughin because it's stil alive and someone in the fucking earth or maybe Mars? is still playing quake 3 lol XD Then suddenly old grandpa (Tom) died after seeing this post.

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Tom 7 (h-72-244-70-96.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 01.15.07 10:49:36
Haha, well then it's off to the arena eternal!
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DCR (190.84-49-157.nextgentel.com) – 01.30.07 09:20:01
I think i still got my demos of q3-singleplayer, where i beat every level in Nightmare and not dying myself. As in Perfect.
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Tom 7 (pd9e2f2ce.dip.t-dialin.net) – 01.30.07 11:43:49
Impressive! You should post those somewhere. I'd watch them. It's really hard to avoid dying on nightmare on some of those multi-opponent levels like dm18...
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Pianist (modemcable142.143-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 02.15.07 11:32:28
O yeah fucking dm18, this is the hardest I did. I think there's no way out, you have to die ! XD Post you demos Ill watch them too. Impressive;perfect runs wow. Congratz!
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Zientman (80.51.196.2) – 02.17.07 08:28:21
Dm18?? I've passed this level, but that wasn't easy to beat. My friends says, that it's easy. That's funny, because I think Dm18 is hard, however they think that Anarki is hardest to beat. Not for me...
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-71-165.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 02.17.07 09:51:36
Yeah, I still think Anarki is one of the easiest 1v1 matches, as long as you hog the items.
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Jayperdu (c-67-171-116-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) – 06.01.07 04:44:09
What's up everyone!? I just read the entire thread! I'm surprised no one posted on the 5-year anniversary 12-1-06!

Anyways, I've almost beat the game on nightmare, I'm really close. Do you guys know how to make maps for quake III? Which program is usually used for map editing? I've made a lot of maps for counter-strike with hammer editor and it's fun.
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-56-241.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.01.07 10:34:31
I did all my mapping with q3radiant, which at the time was pretty much the only way to do it. I think that it is very similar to the editors for Valve software, because it was originally based off the same code?
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Kalypso (c-71-229-49-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) – 06.02.07 09:26:43
Im back, after a 9 month leave, I had to post something Once more.

Im not the person to ask for maps, q3dm6 is timeless to me.

thread never dies, quake 4 enemy territories or Huxley any one?

... take some time, and think about it.

Mad love - Reporting Live from New York City.

peace
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RadAcoustics (203-173-213-48.dialup.ihug.co.nz) – 06.10.07 09:11:18
Heya Tom,

Unfortunately I've nothing new to say about Q3 (or 4 for that matter, tho gotta luv the graphics), so i'll just post this for the hell of it... go the "All Blacks (NZ)" for the world cup of Rugby 2007.

Props to "Pianist" and "Kalypso" for keeping the dream alive... hehe (God it's fun finding this thread).
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swallow.sz (233.78.17.218.broad.sz.gd.dynamic.163data.com.cn) – 06.13.07 13:02:20
I am still working hard to beat hunter. In nightmare, my best result is 7:10. . I have played quake3 for an half year.
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Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) – 06.13.07 15:00:59
See my advice above for Hunter!
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Pianist aka Zodihack (modemcable142.143-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 07.04.07 10:15:30
Hello there, its me again, I'm into a new project; record my playing from A to Z. I mean all quake 3 arena levels on nightmare, one by one for one only record, without restarting any level. ok, There's something sure: im gonna die on almost every levels, lmao. I can't do all levels without dying, its almost impossible, maybe with time, but not in one record all levels =) So If I got something that may be cool to watch, I will first send the record to any of u who wants to watch , then ill put a torrent or something so people can download. If there's anyone that is good in making a video or effects, or something for credits etc. Just email me or something ! Ok. Time to go kick some ass, I,ll be back soon ! ++

P.

systemabuse@hotmail.com
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Anonymous (cpe-76-179-42-185.maine.res.rr.com) – 08.21.07 17:23:49
this game is super easy i have hunt it i really easy
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Khadafi (ool-457a2dd5.dyn.optonline.net) – 09.09.07 10:29:26
Just beat Quake 3 on Hardcore about two days ago. Was real pumped when I found out it was actually possible to beat Xaero.

I tried to tackle Nightmare from the beginning, but realized I might need to be sick with Mono for about 2 more weeks if I want to beat that too.

I wanted to note a fault about Xaero on Hardcore that I'm hoping will work on the Nightmare difficulty. - In addition to hiding behind pillars and using the rocket launcher to shoot him before he sees you, set yourself up in a position where you can see if he takes the OTHER jump pad to the BFG platform as well. If you notice that he takes that jump pad to engage you instead, just shoot down the red target with a railgun or machine gun. After he gets squished, set yourself up in position again, and wait for him to jump to either the BFG or your pillar area. This strategy will ALWAYS work since if you wait behind the pillar, Xaero will jump to the BFG platform enough times that you can KEEP causing him to commit suicide and ultimately negate any of his kill count. Thus, after following these patterns, you will slowly but surely hit 10 kills while Xaero squishes himself into a loss.

Patience is a virtue.

This forum fuckin kick ass by the way. Long live Quake III.

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Khadafi (ool-457a2dd5.dyn.optonline.net) – 09.09.07 10:53:56
Update. 10 minutes after posting my previous comment above I employed the strategy I described and beat Xaero on Nightmare. With a score like 10 - 0.

Now if all the other tiers and levels weren't so challenging and time consuming on Nightmare....
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Pianist (bas7-quebec14-1167939776.dsl.bell.ca) – 09.27.07 02:42:09
Hi there. I'm back. I've done good demos for you people. It's about nightmare. All levels, done, with a perfect. It means that I never die against all levels and yes I did it to nightmare mode. I got all the demos (dm3) 20mb (pack) zipped. If you interested, this is my email : systemabuse@hotmail.com and ill give you the link, this is the only one place I tell for now, to work harder on some levels.

For more info : Q3A version 1.32 ( harder, faster, not the same bot's loop...) You should try it to see yourself, and Q3DM18-Xaero= ouch as always ;-) Alright now I go sleep. I'll be back soon with a good link for fast download and an AVI version for burn it to cd and watch on tv ! Fun ! Peace all, I hope you'll find the records good ! ++
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Tom 7 (h-66-167-91-110.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 09.27.07 09:17:45
Impressive! Speed demos archive might be interested in something like this; I don't know if they have any "speedruns" for Quake 3...

Can you post a rapidshare link or something?
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Pianist (bas7-quebec14-1167940239.dsl.bell.ca) – 09.28.07 12:48:54
Yeah but speeddemosarchive got links, but Ive never find something like that nightmare no death. So Ill post a link during the weekend Tom, with the pack zipped. And a torrent too. Now i got work, see you this weekend!
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Tom 7 (h-72-244-65-114.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 09.30.07 00:22:00
Cool!
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Pianist (bas7-quebec14-1167939746.dsl.bell.ca) – 10.02.07 13:24:17
Alright people. I finished the pack. I may make a torrent soon with updated notes. Alright so the link is : rapidshare com/files/59791878/Pianist zip html
Add dots between com-Pianist-zip-html
Have fun watching these records !

For those who don't know what i am talking about : these are my records of Quake III Arena. It is Nightmare difficulty and all levels are done without dying !

Please read the doc before watching !

Thanks and leave comments: jdesloges gmail com or Skype : Zodihack

See you soon Tom !
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RadAcoustics (203-211-94-191.ue.woosh.co.nz) – 10.10.07 06:42:27
Ahhh... bugger... The "All Blacks" again failed to deliver in the 'Rugby World Cup 2007' and such is life. PS. I see Pianist is from 'Quebec', well done to the French, they were the best team on the day (alltho it pains me to admit it).

Giday once more TOM7 from downunder(NZ).

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Pianist (bas7-quebec14-1177838350.dsl.bell.ca) – 10.10.07 12:33:20
LMAO Rad. Always cool to read your comments! Never stop ! Maybe someday I'll come to hobbitland (NZ) to see what's left in the mountains :P
Peace.
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RadAcoustics (203-211-108-53.ue.woosh.co.nz) – 10.12.07 05:52:42
Not much left in those mountains Pianist... 'King Kong' stomped all over our fair land and destroyed the lot :D.

It's always great to see your posts here too m8, as I've said before "keeping the dream alive".

PS. It's a lovely picturesque, uncrowded little country down here in 'hobbitland' and I'm sure you'd have fun m8.
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Pianist (70.52.99.14) – 10.13.07 11:26:27
Okay Rad. I'll tell you someday, I'll come to NZ =) Then we could chase the big monkey.. because I'm sure, there's no bananas left in NZ, eh ? XD
++
P as Pianist not Pee.
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RadAcoustics (203-211-89-44.ue.woosh.co.nz) – 10.14.07 07:33:31
Boo JohnnyW... not much else to say but commiseration to the French 'boooo... JohnnyW' (Can't belive they made another final, GOD help me if they manage to defend the CUP!)

Monsieur P.Jackson and his trained monkey 'Serkis' ate all the bananas P, which kinda sucks as we are a temperate country and not tropical. This means we are are forced to import the yellow goodness, this situation is almost as distressing as getting kicked out of the RWC by France (Hehe).

......GO Argentina.......:D
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Pianist (bas7-quebec14-1177838350.dsl.bell.ca) – 10.17.07 12:38:22
Hehe Rad, never stop ! There's always a rofl period with you =D

Hey tom if you wanna see my demos, there's also torrents
www torrentz com (add dots) type something like : Pianist nightmare
and you'll see the torrent there.
Else: rapidshare com/files/59791878/Pianist zip html (add dots)

Peace.
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shiftybungle (82-42-148-11.cable.ubr01.sprt.blueyonder.co.uk) – 11.06.07 14:13:15
Nice demos dood. still can't make that jump on dm6. just spent half hr goin insane tryin it. how in hell dya do it? u usin bunnyhop technique? i even hacked cfg with those tweaks for more bounce. just not gettin it.....HELP!!
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grrrdian (cpe-121-210-34-141.nsw.bigpond.net.au) – 11.17.07 16:12:12
it wont let me post html links :O oh well, just google 'quake 3 movement guide grrrdian'

i wrote up a series of articles describing movement in quake 3 (which got deleted when site got upgraded ) :) might want to check it out. it really helps in playing q3 in general, and makes beating nightmare a cinch. cause q3 generic bots move without strafe jumping, so you can pretty much move around map at twice their speed.

speaking of which, nightmare is quite terrible :o people have made mods which fix up nightmare so it plays decently. that said, obv it has a wicked rail, lg and machinegun, but thats about it. anyone who cant beat nightmare really needs to play multiplayer, against other humans. its a lot more fun, and you get better a lot faster.

and if you want to check out a decent quake 3 bot, search for spiterbot :)

and i see people mentioning q3dm18. just stay at quad/rail area, and keep killing them. they tend to gather there.
regarding xaero, it has a good rail, but its possible to take him head on, esp if you try to kill him before he can take the railgun after spawning.

theres a quake3 done quick video out there, with people finishing q3 on nightmare, all levels, in like under 10 minutes :D
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shiftybungle (82-42-148-11.cable.ubr01.sprt.blueyonder.co.uk) – 11.24.07 12:21:42
finally completed Q3 in nightmare last night. I've only had the game since release!! and never beat xaero even on hardcore back then! couldn't find that article u wrote but found another which was far too much math for me. ah well looks like crysis an cod4 time
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kalypso (c-71-229-48-158.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) – 05.23.08 05:29:16
A new comment for 2008!

I had to find this thread and post here, because quake 3 is still one of the best shooters around, unreal 3 wasnt that much fun and Now I am looking for something new

:)

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Pianist (100.86.modemcable.oricom.ca) – 08.10.08 16:27:44
Hi there ! I'm back with some power. I started making a run trough quake 3 arena : nightmare. The goal is to make it from start to Xaero. Q3DM0 to Xaero. All in one demo file. It takes time but I think I'll be able to do it someday. I went to q3dm18, but I died 20-19.... You know when you miss it, you have to leave and start over to q3dm0. =/ Many frustrations.. O well I will do it again and again until I got it and let you know!

peace

Pianist
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Pro (217.217.84.64.dyn.user.ono.com) – 10.20.08 14:59:50
n00bs
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RadAcoustics (p105.cpihn1-n9.callplus.net.nz) – 10.24.08 13:42:26
Here i find myself once more, another trip(nay fall) into the eternal thread...

And what do I find... another G'day from the "Pianist"... wazup :)

Then some f'wit comment "n00bs" from some halfwit who dares to call itself "Pro"...before posting "Pro" I'd look how long this things been going..."n00bs"...ffs lol I nearly wet myself.

G'day Tom ;)

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jubert (adsl-69-231-27-141.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) – 12.31.08 15:14:07
WOO i just beat the game!
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RadAcoustics (119-224-28-89.callplus.net.nz) – 01.12.09 09:06:57
Heya Tom... Hows it hangin'..

Gidday once more from New Zealand...And Happy New year Dude

hope all is well 4 u.

Till next time... Take care.
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Tom 7 (pokemon.wv.cc.cmu.edu) – 01.12.09 13:10:58
hah, thanks for keeping this invincible thread alive. :) Man, I think I still haven't played a shooter that I've liked as much as Q3.. Anybody have any recommendations for games I might have missed?
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|Angie|-UE- (modemcable150.152-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) – 02.28.09 15:01:49
Lawl. Nice to see that there's still a lot of ppl playing quake. AS yuo mihgt know, Quake III will be 10 years old in december :P. Hope there will have any event bout it.. :P
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Pianist (modemcable031.225-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 03.22.09 15:32:04
Quake Zero and long live to this page !

Whats up Rad, Tom, Angie (lol brother)

Name in quake live : dt|Zodihack

See ya there ! Quake forever
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Pianist (modemcable031.225-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 03.22.09 15:32:12
Quake Zero and long live to this page !

Whats up Rad, Tom, Angie (lol brother)

Name in quake live : dt|Zodihack

See ya there ! Quake forever
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Anonymous (host84-149-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) – 03.30.09 17:55:18
Rolf u arent so good.i finish 10 time in nightmare difficult.
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Pianist (modemcable031.225-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 04.29.09 01:22:22
Ive done nightmare, without dying , i have records =)

peace.
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Pianist (modemcable031.225-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) – 06.20.09 11:16:26
Hi there again, soon there will be nightmare videos on youtube, perfect runs in about 8 parts of 10 min or less. So As I said perfect, without dying and fast enough, nice frags too. I'll let you know when it's uploaded.
Peace
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Tom 7 (h-74-0-114-2.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.21.09 08:58:02
Cool... I'll watch, at least. I got perfect on some levels, but some are way beyond me (particularly the ones where you have to kill really fast because otherwise the other dudes just kill each other and someone wins). Let us know!
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Tom 7 (h-74-0-114-2.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) – 06.21.09 08:59:00
Also, there are no videos or demos on speeddemosarchive.com for Quake 3, which I think is a pretty weird omission. You should submit them to start the ball rolling!
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Pianist (modemcable046.130-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) – 07.20.09 20:24:48
Hahaha Yes I should post on sda' s forum about it I guess.

For the videos, its coming, some guy is ripping them, making a video and also uploading to his youtube channel. I'll tell you very soon.

Peace ! =D
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RadAcoustics (cpe-58-165-188-146.nsw.bigpond.net.au) – 11.20.09 09:56:45
Heya Pianist bro,

nice to see u keeping on, keeping on...hehe :0

Gidday Tom7... this time from QLD,Australia.

Long live the eternal thread!

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Reaper's Death (d24-235-152-170.home1.cgocable.net) – 12.31.09 22:42:58
Dont Know If Any Of You Still watch this post however,

I've beaten xaero on nightmare....hes alot easier then u think...he kills u fast yes however if u stop him from grabbing the railgun or the bfg then u can kill him alot easier...EX:::: YOU grab the railgun, everytime u shoot and kill him hop across to the other platform while he repsawns to hopefully grab the other railgun therefore if u keep doing this there will be no railguns for him to grab....stopping him from the bfg is rly easy..just shoot the center pieice in the sky.....when u have the railgun shoot him from the other platform he will be using rockets....easy to dodge right...just some advice...worked for me
i beat the whole game on hardcore wasnt really hard or no rly easy though but during played the nightmare lvls i olny found crash in the very beginning and anarki along with uriel to be the hardest....the hardest for me was anarki....tough dude he is (in my opinion better then xaero)
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oootini (adsl-99-153-218-16.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) – 01.01.10 23:29:31
I'm laughing 'cause so many folks have been going on about beating Xaero in 'Nightmare' level but I'M getting the LIVING S**T kicked out of me by Ranger (q3dm1) on 'Nightmare' setting! (Am I just completely outclassed here or what? Aside from unique tactics/tricks for fighting certain specific individual 'Nightmare' level bots, what else can I try to generally improve my overall skills for 'Nightmare' level fighting. These bots seem capable of doing almost impossible things like taking more damage than reasonable and anticipating my movements and fragging me before I can even move my avatar in a given direction.... Also wanted to sincerely thank everyone for keeping this thread going for so long...I don't know if anyone out there can appreciate what a pain in the ass it is to sift through the gazillion webpages on a subject, finally find one that meets your needs and then realize that it's been 'dead' for several years! Three Cheers for Tom 7!!!!! And yes I do think Q3A is great game even though it's frustrating the crap out of me right now....Happy New Year to all!!!!
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Pianist (modemcable119.31-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) – 01.23.10 01:02:21
Hahaha funny to read all the stuff here , I love it, and im back to post another surprise, good news for you all =)

First of all, the run.. Yes finally it's done, and ripped HD, 8 parts of 500MB!

1st part is already on Youtube. You can find it by searching "Pianist quake" or even "Quake+nightmare" or by going into supra's page: youtube.com/user/supralightgaming

More info about the run :
It is all levels on nightmare skill, without dying !
oootini: If you find it frustrating, try q3m18 without dying hahaha =P
Ok now have a nice time watching the 1st part, and leave comments !
Next parts are going to be online as soon as possible ! TY!
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Angie-UE- (modemcable150.152-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) – 01.24.10 00:31:47
I'm gonna try aswell to do a kind of run for sda...maybe they'll do just like they did for Mario kart 64, al llvl rate individually...Anyway, i can beat most of the lvls on nightmare without dying and rly fast but q3dm18. :( How the **** is this that hard ? Oh Well, nice to see ppl are still playing and keeping this good old game alive :)
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oootini (adsl-76-254-9-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) – 01.25.10 04:08:47
Hey Pianist! Thanx for the comment. You're playing WAY above me that's for sure! (so are you Angie-UE) Haven't beaten Ranger on Nightmare yet, but I'm writing this after just losing to him 9 to 10, so I guess if I keep it up he's eventually gotta fall, since in the beginning i used to get beat 10 to Nothing almost every time. And yeah q3dm18 is a @#$%! I've already beaten every level on 'Hardcore' (though not without dying) and am currently stuck there again....damn but it's a tuff level...I always feel so stupid when I simply fall to my death or just get knocked off a ledge into oblivion by one of the bots.....anyway it's all in good fun I guess :-)
Best Wishes guys and keep on Fraggin' dem bots!
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Pianist (65.94.21.168) – 01.25.10 20:52:30
Hahaha no problem oootini =P Q3DM18, you must analyze the bot's routing in the map, and try being very good with the railgun, that's the way to win. The funny part about Angie= he's my real life brother, so yeah he can do nightmare real good =)

I think that the hardest levels were Q3DM18+space maps ( space maps because you can fall anytime, and you know that you can die easily when bots use the railgun =-/

Q3DM10 was hard because bots starts with full armor and there's health almost everywhere, so you have to shoot them longer time and manage to stay in life =P So many times I died trying to make the last kill, even losing 19-20 =(

anyway yes, its all in good fun !

Thanks for your comment sir, and have a nice evening !

(actually, part3 HD is now available to watch) Leave comments as you wish!
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oootini (adsl-99-25-118-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) – 01.29.10 21:14:35
Pianist:
Well, right after my last post here I managed to beat q3dm1 on Nightmare and in the time since then have managed to pull it off a couple more times so now I KNOW I can make it happen (at least SOME of the time). The truth is I still get my ass kicked there more than 9 out of 10 times so this means I still have a LONG way to go to improve my so-called 'skills'. When I can beat this level at will and with relative ease than I'll feel a lot better about my playing....Anyhow, thanks again for your encouraging remarks and contributions to this thread....
Take Care Out There!
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Pianist (bas4-montreal31-1279651698.dsl.bell.ca) – 02.21.10 16:25:44
Np oootini =)

Little post about the perfect run;part 1 to 8 are now online on Youtube HD. Enjoy watching !

Peace
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etosan (rev-195-91-79-254.t-mobile.sk) – 07.28.10 09:55:35
Hi guys,

I was never good at Quakes, although I finished them all. I am more of a SP and modding guy. I usually play at "normal" difficulty whatever that is (in the middle), but they don't make good SP anymore (I don't count theatrical shit like Modern Warfare x into that).
Whatever, I always loved to play Quake 3 for fun with friends on LAN but I was in the lower half every time. My bro, he is especially good at it with one other friend, pwning everybody else.
So the LAN play became boring with them, they kill everybody, and they are bored too, so our Quake 3 circle slowly dissolved.

Recently I started to play Q3 every morning for 10 minutes with fraglimit 20 right after morning cofee, before I go to work. It pumps me really up for the day. Soon I needed to "up" the difficulty to Hardcore because it was too easy. I usually play "multiplayer" against 8 bots. During our LAN we played especially q3dm18 and qdm17 (I really do like jumppad flying - not good against rail tho). So I got that idea to try to finish the SP mode on Hardcore.

To my surprise I waded through all levels in one day, to end up stucked on Xaero for around 2 weekends. I beat him with cheap tactics finally. Railing him running zigzag between two pillars where the rail is, and occasionally rox him down when he got on my platform. It was tight 10:9. However Nightmare is clearly out of my reach, I suck even at q3dm1.

The point I want to make is, to train often, even short time. I guess that playing long stretches is actually counterproductive. Before I really sucked, and I mean really. Trust me 10 minutes every day is enough for average brain to beat this kind of SP. My bro was surprised how good I got, after we decided to play together after long time. I have not his skill tho, he still wins. Looking back it was really pleasant experience. I should have started this training tactic when I was younger and it really mattered to me to be good at Quake 3. It took around 2-3 months to get to this point. Who knows maybe one day I would be able to start the Nightmare skill.
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RadAcoustics (cpe-124-186-228-133.lns7.woo.bigpond.net.au) – 08.03.10 12:00:40
The eternal thread....LIVES....:P
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Apoc (203-184-32-218.callplus.net.nz) – 01.03.11 00:31:04
I have beaten Xaero on nightmare twice 10:9 and 10:8 head on with the BFG. It was quite hard.. I played against him for maybe a year, I had over 20k kills mostly against Xaero with several thousand impressives, excellents and accuracy rewards.. I have screen shots around here somewhere.
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RadAcoustics (cpe-121-223-108-212.lnse2.woo.bigpond.net.au) – 02.12.11 05:33:39
N1 Apoc impressive stats ... also Kudos on the 1st post of 2011... Long live the the eternal thread ... Sup Tom :)
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Tom 7 (c-67-186-6-86.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) – 02.12.11 14:37:22
2011 represent! :)
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Trapdaar (117.201.91.185) – 02.25.11 01:28:06
Having Trouble with Anarki on Hardcore and I found this thread!
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Cradam (82.132.211.170) – 03.12.11 13:46:46
Hi Firstly I am surprised anyone still reads this
Secondly if you still have the demos of you beating all the levels on nightmare, i as a rookie find it hard to beleive you beat him on hurt me plenty
:@ lol
Also would like to plug ioquake3 for anyone who still wants to play multiplayer and/or single player but can't or doesn't want to use Quake Live
Almost forgot my email address is cradacus@gmail.com
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Cradam (82.132.211.170) – 03.12.11 13:47:55
Main reason I want the demos is for tips and tricks, i learnt a little bit from watching the Quakecon 2002 final which was epic
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Cradam (82.132.211.170) – 03.12.11 13:48:12
* by him i mean xaero
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RadAcoustics (124.176.77.3) – 01.02.12 05:51:10
Well another year bites the dust...The eternal thread hangs on by a mere spider web thread...But I'm still here in 2012 ;).

Hey Tom :D.
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Tom 7 (24.61.187.140) – 01.02.12 16:43:35
Haha yes. :) keep the dream alive!
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candybars84 (12.239.145.246) – 03.11.12 21:07:31
I just started playing again...died on hurt me plenty but after a few rounds ive progressed to beating lvl 1 on nightmare.

Ive came back to Q3 for years. Ive played thru on nightmare twice.
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Anonymous (100-182-78-94.net.stream.pl) – 04.13.12 15:17:55
Hi.

Xaero on nightmare, is bad dream indeed. I EASILY conquered rest of levels on nightmare, and yet, I don't have patience for Xaero after all these years... R.I.P masterserver btw :(
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Anonymous (100-182-78-94.net.stream.pl) – 04.13.12 15:52:26
Also have pummelled Xaero on nightmare. But win, no. Not yet.
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Anonymous (100-182-78-94.net.stream.pl) – 04.22.12 08:58:45
Heh, it was a matter of bringing up r_intensity to see him and turning down music :q
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#geooiunnick[KPKGKKKKKKKR] (198.143.156.83) – 10.05.12 05:35:01
it's ok
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RadAcoustics (124.176.119.114) – 04.15.13 05:53:39
Hello Tom,

Just checkin in brother, it's been a while ;)
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Tom 7 (67.186.7.254) – 04.26.13 20:56:12
Ssssssuppp??
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Zientman (host-101.sun.net.pl) – 12.18.13 12:03:07
I just googled my past actions on the internet, and I found this one ;-) I still remember those days asking for an advice to beat up those guys ;-)
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RadAcoustics (cpe-121-217-172-135.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) – 04.24.14 10:22:15
You are a legend for keeping this thread going Tom, 12yrs since my 1st post.
I still look in now and then ... hope you keeping well brother.
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Wilford (204.44.83.194.static.quadranet.com) – 01.05.15 12:03:38
Spot on with this write-up, I truly feel this amazing site needs a great deal more attention. I'll probably be back again to read more, thanks for the advice!
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Tom 7 (74.125.59.145) – 01.05.15 17:39:46
Still alive! :)
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m1 (pc-21-181-44-190.cm.vtr.net) – 11.07.15 15:11:36
oh yes!
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prednisonemr (226.15.150.178.triolan.net) – 02.18.16 21:00:32
Hiya be friends. 2+0+1+6
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Darrylel (194.15.150.178.triolan.net) – 04.04.16 03:26:55
The computer program, which accurately modeled past sea levels,
predicts up to three feet of sea level rise from Antarctica by 2100.
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RadAcoustics (cpe-123-211-13-135.bpbb-r-033.cha.qld.bigpond.net.au) – 04.17.18 07:26:07
Tom I refuse to let this thread die. 4 yrs since my last post and it's still here there was a reason I called this the eternal thread. The old school posting look its like a magic nostalgia trip. So after 16yrs do we have the record, if not i'll post again until we do.
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