1260. Tuuur (supercow.kabel.utwente.nl) –
23 Jan 2004 13:06:53
[ and Greek ]
It's definitely not meant to sound as "de brown"... Dutch spell the sound "ow" as "ou". So dutch words like oud (old) and hout (wood) are pronounced somewhat like owd and howt.
The idea is something like this: after the sound "u" as in english "us" place a very very very short "ee" as in "tree". It has to be just a hint of an "ee", and then you got it, sort of. |
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1259. Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) –
23 Jan 2004 12:45:43
[ and Greek ]
Tuur: From this I guess it should be rather like "de brown." My poor american ears hear 'gebrowk', at least from 8-bit 8khz .au files. If I leave out the j (as you say) then that suggests "brown". Is that close?
Andrew: Except he doesn't say "leenooks" any more (or so they say)... |
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1258. Andrew (yale128036074100.student.yale.edu) –
23 Jan 2004 12:16:25
[ and Greek ]
de Bruijn needs to set up a web page like Linux did, with something like "Hi, my name is de Bruijn and I pronounce my name `de Bruijn'". |
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I never saw them either; they must have been pretty short run. |
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I didn't see those Supergreg commercials. Guess they weren't aired in Europe. Supergreg is da number one though!!! |
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1255. Tuuur (gw-kamst.gw.utwente.nl) –
22 Jan 2004 03:53:06
[ and Greek ]
Oh, and in pronounciation there is no difference at all between "de Bruin", "de Bruijn" and "de Bruyn". They're all treated like it is an "ui".
The combinations "uij" and "uy" are derelict, only to be found in names, not in nouns or verbs.
Placing an "i" after another vowel originally was a way to specify a longer form of that particular vowel.
For example, there is a dutch surname "Oster" which is pronounced just like in english; but there is a city "Oisterwijk" which is pronounced "Ow-ster-wike". You don't hear the "i" at all, because it's only there to make the "o" longer. This is a relic from medieval times. |
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1254. Tuuur (gw-kamst.gw.utwente.nl) –
22 Jan 2004 03:46:19
[ and Greek ]
No no no, it's NOT "de-BROIN", otherwise we dutch would have spelled it that way.
It's something completely different, a sound not known in english.
On www.learndutch.org I found an example where you can hear the sound ui in dutch.
The man says: "Maak de zinnen af. GEBRUIK de woorden van de foto." (which means something like "complete the sentences, use the words shown in the photo")
http://www.learndutch.org/Lesson2/vocab/audio/zinnen.au |
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1253. Tom 7 (h-69-3-248-89.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) –
21 Jan 2004 22:22:36
[ and Greek ]
That's what it seems to imply, Jeff, though there are other pages on the internet that also claim authoritatively that it is de brown. |
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1252. Jeff (yale128036076025.student.yale.edu) –
21 Jan 2004 20:45:32
[ and Greek ]
Does that mean that it's "de-BROIN"? I've always liked that much better than "de-BROWN". |
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1251. nebulawindphone (pool-68-162-170-36.pitt.east.verizon.net) –
21 Jan 2004 18:22:07
[ and Greek ]
I think it goes back to the Romans actually. Ancient Greek had a vowel in it that sounds like the French 'u' or the German u-with-dots-over-it. The Greek letter for it is Upsilon, which is that Y-with-curly-arms that you sometimes see on frat house signs. The Romans borrowed a lot of words from Greek. They used the letter Y to write that vowel, but they pronounced it just like it was an I. So their alphabet had two letters for the same sound -- one (I) for Latin words, and one (Y, the "Greek I") for Greek words.
Or something like that, anyway. |
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1250. mike (cmu-89128.wv.cc.cmu.edu) –
21 Jan 2004 17:59:50
[ and Greek ]
I was always a fan of
H: hache (ach-ay)
I: i (eeeee)
J: jota (ho-tah)
K: ka (kah)
in spanish...It sounds like chinese or something. |
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1249. Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) –
21 Jan 2004 15:31:07
[ and Greek ]
My bad... |
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1248. catamorphism (216.132.69.150) –
21 Jan 2004 14:30:05
[ and Greek ]
<em>Why don't they teach us this stuff in high school?</em>
Are you kidding? Teaching kids about evil, alien Europeans and their perverse languages? Why, next you'll be suggesting they learn about evolution. |
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I guess I don't watch enough TV! |
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1245. smagill (c-67-165-90-52.client.comcast.net) –
21 Jan 2004 02:57:45
[ Eat Poop, You Cat. ]
Ooh ooh, I wanna play! |
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Freddy Mercury died of AIDS. |
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For the record, the "guy from queen" was Freddy Mercury. As for the buddy lee commercials, I thought that everyone knew that. They had a bunch of websites (one with a redneck racer guy) and each of them were in commercials. |
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Kind of like a weird version of the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band. |
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I'd like to make drums out of them, but they're really brittle. |
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1240. Micheal Angelo (user107.net518.tx.sprint-hsd.net) –
20 Jan 2004 18:09:01
[ Free Plexiglass! ]
no for real, you can make almost anything out of them. If you use a torch to heat them slightly they bend and shape easily, when they cool they keep the shape you bent them into. Wind chimes, drums like the other guy said art deco what ever... |
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1239. Tom 7 (gs82.sp.cs.cmu.edu) –
20 Jan 2004 14:40:59
[ Eyes ]
No, I just started noticing my nearsightedness in November, and went to the optometrist to get glasses. Although my friend tells me that an eye injury is a good way to get free new glasses out of insurance. ;) |
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1238. chris_wass (207.227.21.162) –
20 Jan 2004 14:02:53
[ Eyes ]
Did you end up with specs as a result of your visit to the opthamologist? That's what happened to me. I didn't have to wear glasses until I was 23. I went to the doctor because I thought that I scratched my eye, but it turned out to be a floater. Much to my dismay, the doc informed me that my vision now required corrective lenses. When I went to work with the glasses on for the first time, there were a bunch of people around the same age that commented that they probably needed glasses too, but were in denial about it. It was kind of humorous how many people tried on my glasses that day and noted how much better they could see with them. :-) |
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1237. mike (h-69-3-248-89.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) –
19 Jan 2004 20:14:56
[ qmail hole ]
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH Snap! |
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1236. mike (cmu-89128.wv.cc.cmu.edu) –
19 Jan 2004 14:12:35
[ R.I.P. "Van 7" ]
Damn's! |
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