Most of the Mac studios I admin use AGFA fonts. Up until today I was under the impression they were an honorable company. You can be assured that the graphic design folks I work with will hear about this ugly matter. We will be thinking twice and looking for alternatives before even considering another purchase of fonts from AGFA.
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151. Anonymous (carry.bath.ac.uk) –
01 May 2002 19:56:21
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Someone on that slashdot thread pointed out that the hypocritical idiots at the dallasnews.com have an e-mail this to a friend link at the bottom of every article page! If that's not encouraging deep linking I don't know what is... be sure to point that out to their lawyers ;) |
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Frood:
WTG and good luck. I'm behind you 100%.
Always,
lapsan |
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149. Hock (cmu-29070.wv.cc.cmu.edu) –
01 May 2002 19:27:21
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Yes, we all know this A., but Tom can't make Monotype sue him.
And Tom has posted his letters to chillingeffects. |
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Tom -- please take this issue to court. You can beat them.
A precidence needs to be set that shows future Judges that the DMCA does not always apply. |
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147. Anonymous (eci-gw1.eldocomp.com) –
01 May 2002 19:11:00
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Please, please: Read the this comment on /. - if you end up going to court, it might make a difference - it may even help to stop the DMCA (I am not the author of the comment - I don't know who is)...
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=31982&cid=3446476 |
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Whether this is a DMCA "circumvention" or not is irrelevent. There's this nice legal concept in the US called Ex Post Facto. It is normally applied to criminal law, and means you can't be charged with a crime for an act that was not illegal when it was committed.
You could make a valid argument that the same thing applies here. If a judge were to decide it *was* a circumvention, you can argue that it was written for legitimate use, and was developed years before DMCA was passed. As long as there's been no substantial improvements or added capabilities since DMCA, you developed a perfectly legal tool, and have been distributing it legally for several years. You even have had a disclaimer for some time indicating the appropriate usage.
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145. chrisk@remove-this-spam-block.mit.edu (kuklewicz.mit.edu) –
01 May 2002 19:06:07
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You ought to get the cease & desist letter posted on
http://www.chillingeffects.org/
From their home page:
"In addition, we want your help. We will be gathering a searchable database of Cease and Desist notices sent to Internet users like you. We invite you to input Cease and Desist letters that you've received into our database. We will respond by linking the legalese in the letters to FAQs that explain the allegations in plain English." |
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Congrats on the fight I know may places that are currently uploading your application to mirror it. BEAT THESE GUYS ! |
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Just like everyone else, wishing you luck...everyone who supports open software owes you beer for standing up to these jerks!
I'm not aware that I can actually purchase 'beer tokens' over the internet, but if I find out how I will send you some...
Good luck.
Andy |
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142. Dave Elliot (anonymous.org) –
01 May 2002 18:26:35
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Are AGFA Monotype on crack?
Do not let the man get you down.
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Best of luck with you man. |
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I did submit to chillingeffects.org, in February and last week, but they never posted it. Who knows... |
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Keep up the fight. I'd say based on that last letter you've got them on the run. Good luck! |
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tom i would strongly suggest you submit your harassing letters from the lawyers to chillingeffects.org. its a clearning house for this kinda crap. |
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I will go to ProgrammersHeaven.com and read the TTF file header description and I will take 15 minutes to write a program in Quickbasic 4.5 that makes TTF files unprotected and post it on the web, I wont even open visual studio or anything bigger than qb45 to program this because it is SILLY FLAG SETTING !!!!!!
I urge all programmers to do the same ! |
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I would tell them to bring it, and when they waste your time countersue for some obscene amount like a billion dollars for defamation of character or some such. Cause of course now everyone on the internet thinks yur an evil pirate :)
Which under one of those new fangled laws makes you a terrorist too, right?
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I think that the ones who should be held responsible for the "crime" are the ones who posted the description of truetype files, describing the arrangement of bits & bytes in the .ttf file, because reading such a description would make me aware of the position of the bit (flag) that has to be set to "0" in order to change the status of the font.
(following their logic , of course)
Also , if this "status" (protected or not) is enforced by a lousy flag, 1=protected, 0=free , with no encryption what-so-ever, is not a real "digital protection sheme", so it cannot be broken because it does not even exist...
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For everyone who is reading this and wants to actually *DO* something about the DMCA rather than complain about it, go to http://eff.org and send in a contribution to help them actually fight it! |
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I laughed at the point about you ranking over them in google, even though they paid to be suggested by them.
I wonder which exec has the penis envy. |
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The vagueness of the DMCA and the courts' ignorance of technology puts every programmer, author, geek, etc in hot water. Programs like "embed" do not violate copy protection. If I want to copy the font, I just copy it. Those bits dont do jack. As every day goes by, I hate the DMCA more and more. Please do not give up the fight, some of us (if not most) support you.
Scott Boss
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Go Tom. Best of luck to you! |
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Tom Poe:
Huh? Are you talking about the perl CPAN? I don't have anything to do with them... |
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