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Mils: well, I guess I did enjoy Mallrats after all, I'm just saying that it has its downsides. I agree that the Batman movies were definitely better, but I thought X-Men was better, too. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood?
I've heard other good things about 'y tu mama tambien', marc, I guess I should check it out...
(PS. I watch so many movies because I can watch bad movies while doing work.) |
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Goddam you watch a lot of movies, Tom. Well, I watch far fewer (I think only one so far this year), but I did see a really good one last weekend, so perhaps I ought to recommend it. It's called "Y Tu Mama También." Okay, there you have it, my recommendation. Oh, if you do watch, give it a bit of a chance because you might (like I did) think that's it's not going to be too good after seeing the first 20 or 30 minutes of it. |
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ok, so im reading this, and im following you up until i get to mallrats - now, admittedly it wasnt smith's best movie, but blame for that can be attributed to the pressure put on him by the studios to top clerks, a tall order indeed... the dialogue was a bit over the top on purpose, i believe, to add a bit of juxtaposition between the "mallrats" and the "normals"... and spiderman? i was weaned at the teat of the marvel, with the assorted x-titles and spidey as my numero uno flavors... and this was quite a faithful rendition of the comic books... much much better than any previous comic book movie, with the exception of tim burton's batman flicks, which were more burton movies than batman ones... the melodrama, flashbacks, et al that you rag on as retarded are staples of comic books, and raimi bringing said attributes to the movie is a credit to his directing style. ok, im all ranted out... cheerio, and have fun with agfa and monotype ;-) |
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First of all, let me say this... I have been aware of your fonts for several years! Tom's New Roman and Tombats are some of my most favorite toys and tools.
As for the bully font foundries... who overcharge for their products to start with... I must say this much... I have yet to find a single one of their fonts that necessitates a purchase. There are 1000's of quality freeware fonts which are at least as good as ITC, Monotype, Agfa fonts and often times better.
I certainly won't be rewarding their infantile tactics with my hard earned money.
Go get 'em Tom!!! |
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212. Karthik (ip18.eliresearch.com) –
08 May 2002 08:52:58
[ UPD: embed saga ]
hey dude,
looks like Gary Schark taught you a thing or two ;)
Amy and I just bought our tickets, we'll be in da burgh from June 20-23. A Paul's visit will be in order, as well as trips to India Garden, Dave & Andy's, Eat n' Park, and possibly Sandacstle.
Did you get/download the new Wilco yet?
K |
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211. za3oolah (213.42.0.244) –
08 May 2002 08:24:16
[ FLAMING TEXT ]
flaming text is really coo00000000oooooooool BUT when i copy and paste it in my websit e it doesn't work and that makes me really annoyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Dear Mr. Murphy:
Keep up the good work, I hope that chillingeffects.org can help you resist this disgraceful attempt to use the DMCA to give corporations a veto over software development. I suggest that you countersue the legal firm involved for malicious and vexatious prosecution, as their suit is utterly without merit.
I will paraphrase a comment I made in an e-mail I sent to some of my friends, today:
These (font) companies are saying, in effect, "if you write a program that's meant to do 'X', and somebody uses it to do 'Y', you're guilty of violating this law"... exactly the same logic as in, "if you build a car that's meant to be driven legally, and a crook uses it to speed down a highway, then we come after you rather than the crook".
So much for the Magna Carta.
What if I have come across a font that can't be embedded due to having its copyright bits set, and I undertake an exhaustive search to find its creator to pay him / her for the right to use it or embed it, but the originator of the font can't be found?
A strict reading of the legal harassment you have been subjected to would seem to suggest that a person's only recourse under such conditions would be simply to give up and, in effect, say "I mustn't use that font because somebody, somewhere, MIGHT want me to pay for the privilege of doing so... even though my using the font could not possibly cause that person a monetary loss, given that there is no way for me to pay for the privilege in any event."
If carried to its logical conclusion this line of reasoning could be used to prevent the use of any kind of digitally reproduceable content under any circumstances. (The background pattern that I use on my Web pages MIGHT be patented or copyrighted by someone. I guess I can't use any background pattern, then. But who knows, maybe someone has copyrighted the idea of coloured backgrounds of any type, even "red" or "green". Do you see where this is heading?)
Notice, furthermore, given that (just to name two), the "Arial" and "Times New Roman" TrueType fonts are close copies of Mergentaler's "Helvetica" and "Times" typefaces (which would have had to have been created by reverse-engineering the latter, something that is clearly illegal under the DMCA), why shouldn't the DMCA be used to prosecute Apple and Microsoft for patent and copyright infringement?
Oh, I forgot. They're big corporations, with legions of lawyers, and they have more rights than ordinary citizens.
Best of Luck To You
An Anonymous Security Analyst |
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Congratulations on standing up to bullying lawyers!
FWIW there was a similar problem with Apple trying to stop someone having a page of 'deep links' to their ftp site.
Because his ISP got scared, and demanded he take down the page, he simply got someone in the Netherlands to host his page of links.
If you get problems with whoever actually hosts your site, just invite people to mirror it. I'll happily offer space in the UK, where 'DMCA' is just four meaningless letters.
All strength to you
Stuart Bell
(stuarts macs at dsl dot pipex dot com) |
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you go Tom, that was a very gratifying read. glad you got the legal understanding to push back on those dolts. at least their earning their retainer looking up your citations. keep us posted! adelante! |
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www.seizurerobots.com is down ;( |
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Good luck, and thanks for posting your travails. |
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Sleep tight, they don't have jack against you.
How I hate this DMCA stuff, it hasn't do anything good besides being used by the big guys to bully the small guys. |
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Yes I did say "storng" and not "strong". It's a catchy little technique I picked up somewhere to demonstrate how much attention to detail I give to what I write, or sign. |
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202. Peter McDonell aka fontpharos@woodysw... (gosax2-024.dialup.optusnet.com.a) –
03 May 2002 18:56:02
[ UPD: Embed / DMCA threats ]
I had not heard of the "Embed" program before this brouhaha. Now I think there is a storng possibility that millions are aware of it, thanks to the legal threats to keep it quiet. Let's hear it for the lawyers. |
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Yes, can't wait to hack. Please post immediately. |
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Tom,
I'm 100% behind you. I think these lawyers actually look for potential issues to justify their existence.
I read about this story today on cnet.com. I immediately searched for your site and downloaded embed. Not because I intend to use it, but because I want to have a copy in case the legal bastards force you to remove it. I did the same with deCSS.
Ironically, by threatening this legal action, this legal idiots will ensure that your program lives on.
If you ever need donations for legal fees, I'll be glad to contribute.
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lol i want to watch killer robots at school, but the Hick's here don't understand the time and luven effort that was put into the design of the robots. I'm mad and because of this i'm going to post the school's IP. Yes hack all you want lol. This is because the school has a soild IP, and you have lots of time to hack it. |
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Good luck with this, tom. I've been a big fan of your fonts (and other works) for many years now... If this does (somehow) go to court, and you setup a paypal account to help with court fees, i'll gladly contribute.
Oh, and I still wear my tombats shirt occasionally. :D
..And TZ, only bitmap fonts are non-copyrightable, i believe... |
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Agfa - this is great PR.
I'll switch my camera film too!!
Elephant brain |
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As someone who works with a number of design firms, and always pays the licensing fees for fonts, let me tell you:
1. Thank you, for standing up to these bullies who have misguided lawyers and are contributing to the nonsense created by the DMCA.
2. I will be specifying, from this point forward, than none of my projects, nor any of my clients projects, use typefaces from Agfa Monotype.
To the designers of the world: stop purchasing their products, and let them know this type of action is why... maybe in the future companies will think twice about frivolous legal action against legitimate tools and users. |
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Hi Tom, why don't you make publicly accessible the visitor statistics for your legal letter page.
This way silly corporations can see how much bad PR is being generated from their scare tactics.
Keep up the good work. Oh by the way, I'm never buying an Agfa font ever again! |
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Hey Tom,
Thank you for the simple act of standing up to a bully. Hope and inspiration for the common person sometimes spring from the smallest act.
http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/first/curricula/educationforfreedom/supportpages/L01-RosaParks.htm |
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Great job, Tom! Another good piece of evidence on how the DMCA is used to bully legitimate expression. |
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You might also ask them if their own designers have tools which can modify these bits, and whether, if so, they believe these tools to be legal.
:)
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