Good Luck Tom,
Your utility (embed) appears to me to be simply a useful aide written by you and for you that you where kind enough to release as freeware.
It would appear to me Agfa Monotype and International Typeface Corporation are incorrect in their assertions. The tone of the letters seems to me to be intentionally coercive and threatening.
This tactic has backfired. The facts as presented by you convinced
me to offer any help I can. You are not alone.
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Good Work Tom.
I'm not an american, but I can still see this corporate bullying has got to be stopped. Corporations need to be told that there's more to the Law than deep pockets and scare tactics.
As a graphic designer I'll also be dropping all purchase of AGFA-Monotype products. I'm not going to support this kind of behaviour. |
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Sigh ... Corporate America at its most arrogant (and the Repubs would no doubt call you "unpatriotic")!
Hang in there! Two things the rest of us can do is to call this to the attention of EFF, and to boycott AGFA-Monotype in our own professional work (and let AGFA-Monotype know what we're doing, and why). If enough of us do this ... !
All the best --
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This is the sad truth about the DMCA--companies can make all the
ridiculous claims they want about circumvention, knowing that most
people are unwilling to fight them (for obvious reasons). It takes
guts to stand up to corporate America, espically when the courts seem
so willing to always take their side. I admire you. Hopefully, if
we get a few more people like you willing to stand up to corporate
intimidation, we can stop corporations from using the DMCA to bully
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Do not forget to keep the providers of your site up to date with this stuff, and get their view before AGFA contact them directly over your head and start threatening them. If not they may act first then worry about you later.
Get their support.
GM |
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I am a professional font designer (azalea.com). AGFA, Monotype, and ITC are resellers of my fonts. Their lame-ass efforts to intimidate and coerce you are a classic case of bullying. If would like, Azalea Software would be PROUD to host your embed program on our web sites to further the cause of free speech.
Shame on AGFA. Bad corporation. Bad.
Jerry Whiting, President/CEO
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I am a professional font designer (azalea.com). AGFA, Monotype, and ITC are resellers of my fonts. Their lame-ass efforts to intimidate and coerce you are a classic case of bullying. If would like, Azalea Software would be PROUD to host your embed program on our web sites to further the cause of free speech.
Shame on AGFA. Bad corporation. Bad.
Jerry Whiting, President/CEO
Azalea Software, Inc. |
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I wish you the best of luck. FWIW, I have downloaded a copy of embed to do my bit (npi) to spread it around the world. Let's hope it becomes as famous as DeCSS!
I fear that the stupidity of the DMCA is not going to stop lawsuits such as this. Instead the idiots that file such charges will end up putting out the fire with gasoline. This just causes them to be despised and to suffer universal ridicule.
-apm
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The very first step that is part of any big corporation policy is LIE. 99% of the time it works; that's why they do it. These people have nothing. If I were you, I'd sue them over threats, stress and defamation of character.
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AGFA is a piece of crap, dishonest group of thugs. They LIE about their rebates, and ripped me off, Their AGFA 1212p scanner is a piece of crap that won't run in Linux because it is propriatary, the software has errors in Windows as well in 95,98,NT4 (SCSI error contact manufactor) Yet when you contact the manufactor they SPAM your email, they take a bunch of personal marketing information about you. There is no REAL AGFA support contact, just automated spam.
Their tech support first say's one thing then another. e.g. Conflicting answers.
The FTC won't do anything about it because not enough folks have complained. I hope you burn this stinking dung group of thugs to the ground. Take every fucking last cent they have for this frivolous lawsuit's pain and suffering, and libel
Their lawyers ought to have their feet laid in cement and dropped to the bottom of the ocean for causing the trouble they have. I HATE AGFA . HATE THEM!!!!!
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Another example of the DMCA runing amuk. I'm glad to see you take a stand. I'll be watching your page for updates. Good Luck, Best wishes.... |
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Good for you fighting the copyright facists. The DMCA is a peice of garbage that is being abused and misused. Copyright law is OUT OF CONTROL in this country and does little to stop actual pirating. It gernally is used to limit the right of otherwise legitimate uses of material. Fight the good fight because it's about time people started standing up to the facists.
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Here's sending you positive wishes Tom.
I really, really hope that they do sue you so you can challenge this part of the DMCA in court.
It's a no-brainer that your case is rock-solid, so this would really help start the ball rolling on invalidating this incredibly stifling and anti-American legislation.
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164. Tom 7 (user-1121r6a.dsl.mindspring.com) –
02 May 2002 00:59:15
[ Magnet Man ]
I think we're talking about different Magnet Men, but this guy sounds pretty awesome! |
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163. Tom 7 (user-1121r6a.dsl.mindspring.com) –
02 May 2002 00:58:29
[ Quake 3 Done! ]
Yes, Xaero is easy if you can trick him into killing himself a lot. But he is not so easy to take on in a straight firefight.
Anyway, I went and recorded demos of beating each level. I will post those some time once I verify them -- it was a lot easier with my new video card!
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Thanks for taking the time and effort do stand against corporate bullying that is so often manifest via the DMCA. If people don't stand up for their rights, then before long the corporations will control us all. |
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Tom,
Many thanks to you from another developer out in the community... Standing up for what's good and right will illuminate the evil known as DMCA and eventually cast it back where it came from...
- Greeny |
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Hi,
you're making a very clear explanation why Monotype's complaint is stupid, I won't add to it any more. However I wanted to say that this kind of behaviour just drives me mad. They basically consider that :
- Embed is a circumvention device without even thinking that it's maybe no more than a tool
- Embed users are pirates without even noticing that they could be legitimate users
Why aren't we suing kitchen knives manufacturers ? Cause it's obviously a weapon and people purchase it to commit murders. This analogy would make a lawyer smile, but does make (emphasized) sense for 99,99% of the other people.
I consider that these lawyers are 'presuming guilt', which is a grave and unlawful offense here in France. And surely is in many other countries. They basically express their fears, rants and threats to you without or with false arguments. And nobody should have to prove his/her honesty. I call this the discrete and polite way of (corporate) fascism.
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I'll gladly host a copy of embed on my site(s).
The shit you have to put up with in the US at the moment is ridiculous. It's unfortunate that it will probably filter through to the rest of the "allied" world.
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It is pretty easy to find out their contact information from their names. But I do think it's irresponsible for me to publish their details, so I don't plan on doing that. (Please don't take this as encouragement to contact them!)
Thanks for all the messages, everyone. =)
(now check out the rest of my site! ;) embed is like, nothing...) |
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Way to go Tom!
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Hi Tom,
Read the letters and they are utterly unbelievable. Your responses
on the other hand are cogent and in a legal sense (though IANAL)
seem indisputable. Thanks for fighting the good fight here - we all
benefit from this. <p>
What I think would be useful is if you could post the contact
details for a designated individual or office at Agfa Monotype
and/or the International Typeface Corporation, so that all of us
who have visited your page and been outraged by the behavior of
them/their attack lawyers can so inform them, in semi-unified
(and, I trust, courteous) fashion. <p>
After all these are businesses and their public officers have a
right to know that they are alienating their most dedicated
customers with these tactics. <p>
Sincerely,<br>
Derek
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Tom,
Don't take any shit from those overbearing, good for nothing fuckheads. Tell them and their lawyer goons to shove it up their ass's!
This is obviously another case of big corporations using the DMCA to bully the smaller guys... But this time they fucked with the wrong guy.
Please don't budge on your beliefs.
Sincerly,
tfb
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Look for $5 to you via PayPal as a token of appreciation. I like people who stand up to bullies. :-) |
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